2004-08-11 18:57:55 Wonder
http://www.afian.com/onlineDemo/
2004-08-11 18:58:06 Wonder
It's really good.
2004-08-11 18:58:24 Qingrun
Let me see what is.
2004-08-11 18:58:35 Wonder
However, I have seen a lot of things, but I can write PHP. depressed.
2004-08-11 18:58:52 Qingrun
Ha ha.
2004-08-11 18:58:47 Wonder
Can't copy directly. I have to write it back too much.
2004-08-11 19:00:01 Qingrun
Ha ha. definitely. However, what he did is a show on its own machine.
2004-08-11 19:00:27 Wonder
No, this is web
2004-08-11 19:00:38 Wonder
Look at most features. Strong! ! ! !
2004-08-11 19:01:05 Qingrun
I know this is web. I am saying that he is not a display of reading on my machine. I have seen this feature.
2004-08-11 19:01:15 Wonder
Oh, but you have no code. This is a depressed thing
2004-08-11 19:01:28 Wonder
This management is very good.
2004-08-11 19:01:36 Qingrun
Yes.
2004-08-11 19:01:42 Qingrun
Oh, let me see.
2004-08-11 19:01:47 Wonder
In fact, similar things require a lot of development. For example, sharing document libraries.
2004-08-11 19:02:03 Qingrun
Ok.
2004-08-11 19:01:59 Wonder
Anyway, your concept needs these things to support.
2004-08-11 19:02:30 Qingrun
Oh, this way is really good. Pure web support, very good.
2004-08-11 19:02:39 Qingrun
Give us a reminder.
2004-08-11 19:02:34 Wonder
I feel free, I can set up an open source organization to develop these things.
2004-08-11 19:02:57 Qingrun
Well, yes.
2004-08-11 19:03:12 Qingrun
Be a code base.
2004-08-11 19:03:16 Wonder
There is only possible to advance things and slowly put things.
There is something to see people to make people believe it.
2004-08-11 19:03:30 Wonder
and so. . . I am in my own way to take the product. . .
2004-08-11 19:03:41 Qingrun
Give you a new document about sculpture, I wrote.
2004-08-11 19:05:18 Wonder
Things are so advanced.
2004-08-11 19:05:16 Wonder
Well, your document has been doing well.
2004-08-11 19:05:35 Qingrun
Ha ha.
2004-08-11 19:05:51 Qingrun
My habits, I hope that I can also promote it in my team in the future.
2004-08-11 19:05:55 Wonder
Do you want to write a sculpture system?
2004-08-11 19:05:59 Wonder
This is not much related to the sculpture system.
2004-08-11 19:06:11 Wonder
This is actually something developed online.
2004-08-11 19:06:21 Qingrun
This is an avatar of the previous auxiliary project management system, I think it makes sense.
2004-08-11 19:06:44 Wonder
Ha ha. YES
2004-08-11 19:06:49 Wonder
However, you need a main line to run through.
2004-08-11 19:06:57 Wonder
Develop it with Java so that our system will consistent.
2004-08-11 19:07:04 Wonder I made a lot of research in KM.
2004-08-11 19:07:34 Wonder
My system is slightly different from you. The main structure is project management, communication, collaboration, and a knowledge base.
2004-08-11 19:07:49 Qingrun
Ok. I think this is an opportunity to apply a set of collaborative management and development model, and you can also promote a lot of auxiliary content, such as my full modeling.
Method, and some of your philosophy, gradually pushing our things.
2004-08-11 19:07:48 Wonder
As for credit evaluation, you can see a system of the upper layer.
2004-08-11 19:07:57 Wonder
hehe yes.
2004-08-11 19:08:07 Qingrun
Oh. At that time, we can sit together to discuss it.
2004-08-11 19:08:04 Wonder
In fact, it is not necessary to put the eye on the development process.
2004-08-11 19:08:11 Wonder
The development process is an environment for the entire product process.
2004-08-11 19:08:13 Wonder
The link.
2004-08-11 19:08:27 Wonder
If you want, you must extend to the product management, product planning, and innovative planning phase.
2004-08-11 19:08:41 Qingrun
The development process is just a conservation, is not very important, it is necessary to consider how to change according to the actual situation.
2004-08-11 19:08:37 Wonder
So I suggest that the process is not necessary to moderate.
2004-08-11 19:08:47 Wonder
But basic components are complete.
2004-08-11 19:09:06 Qingrun
Here is just a suggestion, I will adjust according to the situation, and I will not be so book. Ha ha.
2004-08-11 19:09:00 Wonder
The overall business model needs very complete.
2004-08-11 19:09:19 Qingrun
um, yes.
2004-08-11 19:09:22 Wonder
Finally, you will find that the software process and product process don't have much difference, huh, huh.
2004-08-11 19:09:44 Wonder
In addition, I think your system should have a certain business direction.
2004-08-11 19:10:07 Qingrun
I will give you a foreign process:
http://www.enterpriseunifiedProcess.info/
2004-08-11 19:10:13 Qingrun
It seems to introduce you?
2004-08-11 19:10:20 Wonder
The development content should be divided into base parts and application parts. Applying partial may take knowledge sharing retrieval, or may be a consultant consultation process, or
Written or develop processes.
2004-08-11 19:10:41 Wonder
This will make a strong platform and multiple applications, and the business value is big.
2004-08-11 19:10:50 Qingrun
The initial business direction is the sculpture of software projects, providing a platform for development and collaboration of various software projects.
Behind it can accumulate something, do some industries apply.
2004-08-11 19:10:49 Wonder
When is this thing to develop, I have a copy. Ha ha
2004-08-11 19:11:16 Wonder
It should be a auxiliary system called sculpture. . Ha ha. Aperated
2004-08-11 19:11:25 Qingrun
I want to see when the Yuan brother will pull the funds to me.
2004-08-11 19:11:28 Wonder
This plan is not enough.
2004-08-11 19:11:56 Wonder
The span of the architecture from the demand to the system is too large.
2004-08-11 19:12:09 Qingrun
I have seen me with his chat content last time. Oh, this is a solution.
Detailed plan to do it according to people and resources, it is too early.
2004-08-11 19:12:09 Wonder
Missing demand analysis, business planning, product planning, boundary analysis.
2004-08-11 19:12:18 Wonder
Not. I am not a detailed plan.
2004-08-11 19:12:25 Qingrun
Ok.
2004-08-11 19:12:37 Wonder
I am talking about product planning and strategy. I have said my thoughts with you this. You should know
2004-08-11 19:12:46 Wonder
Without this, the product is very easy to fail.
2004-08-11 19:12:56 Wonder
lost direction. no target. Ha ha
2004-08-11 19:13:14 Qingrun
Do you say that the content is in the plan? Demand analysis, business planning and product planning is not done, because I am worried that there is not enough time. First follow the project method
Do it, then consider. Of course, you can also wait for me to return to Beijing, we will talk together.
2004-08-11 19:13:11 Wonder
The back of things can not look at it.
2004-08-11 19:13:31 Qingrun
Yes, it is also very virtual.
2004-08-11 19:13:31 Wonder
In addition, there is still a lack of commercial analysis, business model, profit model, even a price, and sales method ==========
2004-08-11 19:13:34 Wonder
These must be added.
2004-08-11 19:13:48 Wonder
Customer group analysis, customer analysis, competitors analysis,
2004-08-11 19:14:10 Wonder
This is basically a software engineering assistant tool. I have seen it, there is no similar tool in China.
2004-08-11 19:14:18 Qingrun
The profit model is his consideration. In the early stage, sales are not considered, adopt sponsors, developed to the sponsor use.
2004-08-11 19:14:31 Wonder
But don't write too big, like a green bird, only suitable for the national fund.
2004-08-11 19:14:38 Qingrun
Yes it is. Domestic did not, abroad seems to be similar, but there is also a big difference.
2004-08-11 19:14:53 Qingrun
I understand, so I am also in the compressed demand boundary.
2004-08-11 19:14:54 Wonder
It is also necessary to use what configuration management, change management, you need to combine those concepts.
2004-08-11 19:15:15 Wonder
It is an auxiliary software "product !!" support environment. .
2004-08-11 19:15:19 Wonder
In the long run.
2004-08-11 19:15:26 Qingrun
Ok. However, configuration management still wants, change management, I think, as long as there is a change process, you will work.
2004-08-11 19:15:44 Qingrun
Yes it is. In the future, you can consider selling to big companies, allowing them to be used inside.
2004-08-11 19:15:42 Wonder
To, I mean not to use these so-called management to the cut boundary of the subsystem or module. . Not necessarily suitable.
2004-08-11 19:16:00 Qingrun
Oh. I understand. Ha ha
2004-08-11 19:16:21 Qingrun
In fact, these management are both nested background business logic.
2004-08-11 19:16:27 Wonder to cut with the process and phase of product development. These means are then configured. . It is this idea. In order to be at a level, or some directions,
"Complete", this is very important.
2004-08-11 19:16:53 Wonder
Yes, then refine it, it is the class of business logic, and that can be said later.
2004-08-11 19:17:08 Qingrun
Ok. Ha ha
2004-08-11 19:17:16 Wonder
This thing will be different from others, novelty, and practical value, as long as someone is used, you can scroll.
2004-08-11 19:17:50 Qingrun
Yes. So I just said with you, I must have to put it first. Ha ha.
2004-08-11 19:18:21 Wonder
I actually hate someone else's set of CMM, and something CMM is very limited. Demand management, configuration management and change management. Demand and change
It is more completely in the bigger "product management, customer demand support and product boundary control".
2004-08-11 19:18:37 Wonder
This is the real thing of the company, I think.
2004-08-11 19:19:20 Qingrun
I now want to use this company to find Fujian's business, then, Yuan brother will pull some sponsors again, you can do it. Synchronous underlying funds is rich
.
2004-08-11 19:19:28 Wonder
Well, please integrate my QQ today.
2004-08-11 19:19:42 Qingrun
I just feel that there are necessary contents to stay, don't need so many ways.
2004-08-11 19:20:00 Qingrun
Ok. I am integrated. Then I will contact the Yuan brother. See how to do it.
2004-08-11 19:20:06 Wonder
This is as meticulous, and hope is getting bigger and bigger.
2004-08-11 19:20:26 Qingrun
Ok. I know. Otherwise, it will be broken.
2004-08-11 19:20:43 Wonder
Oh, but your way is good, TOP engages in CMM, in fact, it has trained a number of people with ways to do. . .
2004-08-11 19:21:09 Qingrun
Ha ha.
2004-08-11 19:21:26 Wonder
Many people do not pay attention to these subtle document changes, update the notice, so in the end, things can't be "advanced", and will eventually nothing.
2004-08-11 19:21:49 Wonder
In fact, the quality of the software process is improved by the root until there is no depreciation of the managed Pert cycle.
2004-08-11 19:22:16 Qingrun
Yes it is. Therefore, Top's CMM makes me realize the importance of change records, which can also let users see how many things we have done for users. Let the user feel
We have worked hard.
2004-08-11 19:22:42 Qingrun
This is a method of reducing user new demand requirements today.
2004-08-11 19:22:36 Wonder
This change record I understand that the first is the management of demand, which is just the first most important KPA of CMM2.
2004-08-11 19:22:59 Wonder
With demand, then users know what they want. Not imagined. Behind it can be roughly estimated.
2004-08-11 19:23:06 Qingrun
Ha ha. Yes it is. It is also directly reflected in the direct embodiment of change management and configuration management.
2004-08-11 19:23:25 Wonder
In short, demand is the foundation of all projects. . . As for effective demand, it is necessary to combine with planning. Of course, this part is no longer the work of SE.
2004-08-11 19:23:42 Qingrun
Ok. Yes it is.
2004-08-11 19:23:50 Wonder change and configuration is also based on a list of demand. There is no two behind the former.
2004-08-11 19:24:19 Qingrun
Yes it is.
2004-08-11 19:24:33 Qingrun
This is what the demand is the source of the project.
2004-08-11 19:24:35 Wonder
Ok.
2004-08-11 19:25:35 Wonder
In fact, it is clear what is going to work and then establishes a mechanism for continuous improvement. There is this idea running, just writing TXT files can also be said to meet CMM2 KPA
Claim. Ha ha
2004-08-11 19:25:57 Qingrun
Ok.
2004-08-11 19:26:01 Wonder
Conversely, it is set to manage the management, and finally do not know what objectives are not known. I think this kind of guy is not a small number.
2004-08-11 19:26:42 Qingrun
Ha ha. There is no way, most of which are colleges who have experience in engineering projects, Top Top is the teacher who has sold CMM is a teacher.
2004-08-11 19:27:01 Wonder
Those people need to let OZ to do it, haha
2004-08-11 19:27:16 Qingrun
Ha ha.
2004-08-11 19:27:20 Wonder
Well, this thing can be refined.
2004-08-11 19:27:42 Qingrun
Ok. I have to have dinner now, what about you? Have you eaten?
2004-08-11 19:27:37 Wonder
Look back to your new version.
2004-08-11 19:27:48 Qingrun
Ok. Ha ha
2004-08-11 19:27:42 Wonder
I'm eating. .
2004-08-11 19:27:48 Wonder
I will go home for a while.
2004-08-11 19:27:59 Qingrun
what? outrageous. All right. Goodbye!
2004-08-11 19:28:06 Wonder
Oh, see at night.
