Pay attention to the health of the programmer, not to slow
I heard the news of the famous simulator developer Li Kewen, people can't help but have a genius. While feeling sorry and missing, we have clearly seen that the vast majority of programmers in the industry live in disease or sub-health. From the moment of choosing the computer industry, the programmers began a long-term life with the mouse keyboard and the monitor. How many programmers are sitting in front of the computer while sitting on the computer while sitting in front of the computer, few people have time and energy to care about their physical condition. Because of this, the health status of programmers is more worrying. If the programmer does not pay attention, wait until the hazard begins, it is often a bit late.
Occupational disease, how far is it from us?
There are many factors that affect programmers' physical health. For example, programmers Lai Lai's survive-computer, itself is a source of pollution to manufacturing radiation. Long-term with it, always cause more or less damage to the body. Many programmers use a computer, do not pay attention to sitting, holding mouse, and operate the keyboard, so that the body is often in the excessive fatigue state. In addition, many programmers often guarantee regular work and meal time. According to the survey, the programmer has a proportion of more than 77.8% of the programmer every day, of which the proportion of people accounting for 12.5% every day; there is a considerable number of people do not have breakfast or breakfast, more than 1/3 people can't Follow the normal meals every day.
In addition, programmers' psychological stress is also a very important factor. The programmer with up to 42.0% believes that "work is boring and has no sense of accomplishment", it is considered to be a considerable proportion of "affected by the physical emotional life". The fierce and brutal market competition, heavy working pressure, is not loose living environment, lack of activities, communication between people, has caused great burden to the psychology of programmers.
These factors may cause various forms of professional diseases regardless of physical or psychological.
If you have a programmer friend, or yourself is a programmer, pay attention to it, have you or your friends have had some cases?
Dry skin, pain, foreign body sensation, vision falling headache, insomnia, forgetful, neuraging neck, wrist, hand, waist joint or muscle pain, irritability, irritability, resistance decline
Any of the above symptoms have indicated that your health is in danger. It should cause you enough attention, don't don't use it, delay treatment, should adjust your physical condition within the scope of your ability, avoid deterioration.
I have to say all the programmers and friends: work business is important, but for a person, health is the most precious, there is nothing can be replaced, - take care of the body.
Comment # 2004-07-20 6:28 PM Snowy Fox I still can't play a programmer, but I only have a hard work because I am going to the way of programmer now. Even if you are hard, I still want to be a programmer, because I am interested in the procedure, from the learning program until the present three years, I have always maintained these passion, but because of the students, I didn't find a job on society, usually also Just give yourself, the people around you write the website, for my personal website (http://www.nowfox.com/), I am indeed breakfast, don't eat it, the three meals are not normal, the time is chaotic, although I know these The sequelae, but as long as one sits in front of the computer, hold the mouse, knocking the keyboard, I forgot time, forget to eat ... I have discovered my eyes, my eyes, dry eyes, backache ..., But now the competition is so fierce, and I am also a non-computer professional student. In order to find this work in order, I don't want to do some sacrifices. Oh, but it seems too sorry yourself, huh, huh, for future, forget it, I still play basketball. # 2004-07-20 7:05 PM Dong graduated from our university to participate in the work 1 month plus internships for nearly 4 months, it has been painful from the neck to the spine, every Sunday is overtime, every day works near At 9 o'clock in the evening,, but the salary is still a little bit, I don't dare to say that the boss is exploitors, but I think the programmer is too far, Faint ............... ......
# 2004-07-21 2:11 AM Begin Die has a story: There is a student. I used to be very disobedient. The teacher will punish him. He is very uncomfortable. One day, he grows up, and it has become a teacher. As a result, he found that his student was also toned, he also punished his student. . .
This question is to give our boss. . .
Not our discussion. . .
Until we became the boss. . .
Or continue this turn back. . .
# 2004-07-21 2:14 AM Saturn is really like this, I basically get started, I have been sleeping (I am soho), I am very hard, eat instant noodles every day, actually gain, I can only say that I have a digestive system.
# 2004-07-21 2:16 AM Begin Die dizzy, so you can be fat, you are really strong. . .
# 别 别 中 中, I don't know the bless. 2004-07-21 8:15 am SoftWorms just as the younger brother, then happiness, health, resourcefully robbing, forced to do. Waiting for thousands of years It's a woman, and you should "take care of the younger brother.
Compared to those excavated miners, the programmer is still not bubble, and the big air conditioner is blown, and there is no surprise and there is no danger.
Don't say they are not people!
# 往事 如 烟 2004-07-21 9:50 AM wind Wings After graduation, I have been doing it in the south, and there is not much salary, and the eyes are soaring. . . . . . So now the position is not written, and it is changed. . . . . . . Know the hard work of making programmers. How many people are now closed. I have done, 3, 4 months, a bunch of people don't have a day when there are a few houses in a community. . . . . . . In the end, the head is sloppy, and the eyes are sluggish. . . . Bitter!
# 2004-07-21 9:58 AM WWEight has been with the computer, has been accompanied by the computer, four years of university life gives it, the vision is 600 from the original 250 to graduation, graduated for a year, Two work, although the salary rises, but the body is getting more and more tired, last night, I went to see a friend who was still college, I was lying on the grassland of the university campus, I really don't want to leave, I said to my friend: For a long time There is no such a close nature. tired! ! ! # 2004-07-21 10:01 AM Lonely heart may just get in touch with a new Southam. It is a bit new, but it will be boring, boring, and occasionally a bit of accomplishment, but you will turn it will change. Pass away
# 2004-07-21 10:44 AM passing by programmers, like the prostitute, nothing else, forgetting, nothing.
# 2004-07-21 12:36 PM Kill! Everything is wrong!
# 2004-07-21 1:30 PM Saderline I have done 9 years of IT, from primary programmers to senior administrators, the monthly salary gradually increased from thousands of yuan, but eventually, it is still a change. Recalling that it is really not a life, that income does not make up for your health deterioration, and I will never choose this line again. I remember that I was at the school at the school, I could run to 3 minutes and 08 seconds, but now I am a blink of blinking, often backache, neck pain, I have no irrevers, I have no noise, 呜呜 ... Sad! Poor now there are so many ignorant students, but also to apply for computer
# 2004-07-21 4:23 PM Storm My cervical spondylosis has been confirmed.
# 2004-07-21 5:25 PM binary is really afraid, I still have to live.
# 2004-07-21 9:00 PM Huang no longer the most terrible, do not exercise every day, let the greenery is no longer, the wife wants to divorce me, what should I do?
# 2004-07-22 8:47 Am Amanda I also made four, five years of programmer, holding mouse time long, right shoulders, often get home to give their families. My boyfriend is also a programmer, almost do not eat breakfast, and dinner will often eat it.
My gosh. . .
# 2004-07-22 9:34 AM Peterchen I did this for 4 years, usually working properly for 12 hours a day. Breathing breakfast is basically not eaten, and the eyes are getting worse. Hey, sigh, the programmer's income and payment are too far.
# 2004-07-22 9:40 AM TMD really TMD is annoyed!
# Pay attention to programmers, to start from China's software industrialization! ! ! 2004-07-22 9:46 AM Autumn As a programmer, I also have the same health problems like peers: the eye discomfort, memory recession, backache, etc. But I think that if you want to truly change this kind of health, you must start from raising China's software industrialization, let us do software just like other products, realize the leap of industrialization. Like a lot of Chinese programmers now, I have developed a few small software alone, or I started a small company, and privately wrote a few software to take it. In fact, I used to be like this, but later found that this software, very poor practicality, can't really improve management, and then I changed, I started to write some large software, or implement some domestic and international soft body, I think I think This will truly promote the improvement and quality of management. As long as we industrialize development software, just like developing some kind of product, then we will not be so tired, do you know? My dear peers! # 2004-07-22 10:25 AM Health Tips Will not live, it will not work and learn! Have a health!
# 2004-07-22 11:12 AM Talk about what we are worthy of civil society is: work environment is OK, did not eat migrant workers. Other.
# 2004-07-22 12:11 PM Cyberblues combat the piracy, regulate the industry, and the space of the programmer, to the programmer's right to make a human right! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
# 2004-07-22 12:15 PM Cyberblues's tragedy of domestic programmers is completely due to domestic malformations
# 2004-07-22 2:48 PM Alaska I agree with the two opinions of Saderline and autumn. And I added a little: The programmer's health problem is to be caused. Before you work (middle school, university) is used to life of the three-down four-fold four-fold, you are still a sample after entering your work! For example, there is a child, I admire for the spirit of personal websites to sleep, but just as the old programmer said, the health loss is unable to make up. After you have a big bigger, I found that the health care expenses you want to worsen well is far beyond your younger and exhausted money. You see the temporary minor of the programmer, ignore the long-term strength. A disease stresses you when you are 20 years old, you may kill you at 50 years old, this is not a smile, don't give you a bet! The programmer should first pay attention to health and should also fight with companies that are not responsible for programmers! I have given opinions on the company to give management, requiring them to improve the working conditions of developers, of course, the result is not what I can control. From a certain point of view, the programmer is a group of abuse and a serious group of self-abuse.
# 2004-07-22 6:10 PM Magical boy read the sense of seniors, I think I still use the procedure as a kind of hobby. I must not put this as a career.
# 2004-07-22 6:14 PM ICU "Here I wish all programmers and friends: work business is important, but for a person, health is the most precious, there is nothing can be replaced, - Take care of the body. "" The tragedy of domestic programmers is completely caused by domestic malformations ", which is very agreed, and the principle. Everyone should pay attention to the health! Play good learning work = can be a healthy person. The body is the capital of the revolution. # 2004-07-22 10:05 PM wuxinhua_ok also high school, I admired the programmer from the bottom of my heart, I feel that they are all wisdom, walk away from the front of technology. Reading a college, it is a computer professional. In order to understand a long program, spend a long time, I can't sleep in my heart. I graduated a smooth found and professional-pair of work, do ERP, and it's a relatively large company! Every day I feel like working and work, at 9:00 pm, I will remove the food and lunch break, I have a computer with the computer, the body is not as good as a day, I want the public, I am afraid that I am afraid of the football court! Oh, now! ! The date of the programmer is bitter! Put the programmer than the senior migrant worker! I suggest everyone to discuss what's the final way out of our programmer?
# 2004-07-23 1:24 AM The most love cabbage programmer is self-abuse! (Very accurate statement)
Maybe many people will pass through!
Jumping out of this industry, know why I said this!
# 2004-07-23 10:07 AM Cyberblues Re: I suggest you discuss the final way of our programmer?
Without piracy, which is dare to say that the Chinese programmer is incompetent? The professionalism showing the software when writing the software is not poor than any country, through efforts, we can sell the Chinese brand's high-quality software throughout the world, but our own software company has lived in our country. difficult. Most of the companies that write applications in China are now a ten-year history, such as Jinshan, Haojie, they are money and pirated business fight, can also suppress the peers with financial resources, this kind, who dares software, those The big company has a road, you can pick a government order, but those software vendors who don't want to pick up the government or the ordinary computer users will not be alive? What is the current computer system? Not a database is ERP, the computer's coverage is very wide, but now how many of the country can have related works of the operating system? But see how many is engaged in ERP? What is this structure not malformation? A friend told me a joke: "A giant billboard in the software building in his office rose, and killed five people. The investigation found that there were four to write ERP, and there is an injection, but it is An ERP is selling. "Something is exaggerated, but ten eight nine is this situation. In the Internet, many Chinese programmers are constantly incompetent, persuade those people who have a few pirated software in their own machine when they say those words.
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# 2004-07-23 10:10 Am Handey2000 dry line, love a line!
# 2004-07-23 11:55 am songday 9494, too annoying, I want to make programming as a kind of hobby, when the survival career is annoyed, I plan to change it.
# 2004-07-23 1:36 PM hopes that I entered this line is that this work is challenging, I hope I can live a wonderful. Unfortunately, there is no!
# 2004-07-23 1:56 PM Jelly Wang Xin Work hard work 20 years, just that when the migrant workers are too tired; who knows that the head is not as good as the migrant workers, the graduates from all over the world are like tide, see I have fallen prices in a few years. # 2004-07-23 2:05 PM The biggest pleasure is bored to lying on the bed!
# 2004-07-23 2:07 PM Huixyn graduated a year, as a programmer still less than a year. I think the key is that I have to adjust myself. Why don't you sleep at night? Maybe my pressure is not very big, there is no case, I don't know. The programmer is at the time, facing the computer, and the body is definitely getting worse. My most obvious feeling is: I used to play in school, I was playing in an afternoon, and I didn't feel tired. But now, kick once a week, I'm running free: (I hope everyone will exercise more, the body is the capital of the revolution !!!
# 2004-07-23 2:28 PM DDD compared to those excavated miners, the programmer is still not bubble, the big air conditioner is blown, and there is no surprise, sitting in the office.
Don't say they are not people! ============================================================================================================================== The programmer is not easy, and the programmer is not only the code, but also a process of constantly updating his own knowledge. It is like I have been in the past two months. Every day, from 8:30 in the morning, go back to see it. In the case of two or three hours, I think the miners are happier because they only have to force, and they can really have lived after the work, and I think that most of the programmer is not a day.
# 2004-07-23 2:32 PM YJ When you are young, you will change money. When you are old, take the money again ...
# 2004-07-23 2:38 PM AAA is a week, I am playing a blue ball once a year, or is forced
# 2004-07-23 3:20 PM Bulefox I am a happiness programmer, responsible for developing some software I used by the company, and receiving a bunch of brothers to maintain the company's network, pressure can't say, but mainly forced Yourself, because the program is my interest, not just a meal. In fact, this is also a year old, from my design first procedure to now, it has been 10 years, the hardships have passed, but I still believe that interest is the most important. I would rather study the APR code at 10 hours a day, and I never feel tired. When a program is written, it is lost, and it is busy finding a way. I don't know if this is a pathological state, huh, huh. Of course, if the program is used as a meal bowl, it will not feel relaxed, but I feel very happy, at least compared to those prior people, studying the computer is really happy, we are still unknown?
# 2004-07-23 3:25 PM WSONG compared to those excavated miners, the programmer is still not bubble, the big air conditioner is blown, there is no shocked, sitting in the Office, I am launched. -------------------------- Why don't you take a full day, the organs do not do do things are coal-coal ratio.
# 2004-07-23 3:40 PM AA as a programmer, my biggest feeling is sorry for my wife and family
# Is it a health problem? 2004-07-23 3:48 PM Warlord is definitely not a programmer, you don't pay attention to health. Do you want to be comfortable, the programmer is not a small capital, not a traitor, not a leading cadre, not a liar, if not for life, who is willing Play!
# 2004-07-23 3:50 PM PIAOZI China's programmer writes a lot of applications, how many write system procedures?
# 2004-07-23 4:01 PM Powwow I am a buddy, the program is highly obsessed. The difference in the high display. After a few months of graduation, because of excessive eyes, the retina was taken off. Fortunately, doctors have superb, use XX to the eyes, and put the retina to X. He was scared to die, thinking that it was blind.
# 2004-07-23 4:07 PM passenger miners can earn 5000-8000 a month, otherwise no one is jumping in the fire pit? It's better to make a mine. Usually don't pay attention to protect yourself, who is looking for? !
# 2004-07-23 4:19 PM Zexunlee Sometimes I really want to return to my hometown for two years, I will come back to make programmers. It is mainly mentally, and the body's discomfort does not say, and some of the problems in the body say that there is basically. depressed……
# 2004-07-23 4:42 PM CUI and some so-called "experts", righteous words: "China needs XX Wan IT talents", these so-called "talents" is essentially cheap labor in developed countries, While purchasing software, they integrate a series of diseases such as obesity and other diseases. . . . . . Strongly despise some of the mouse in the government
# 2004-07-23 5:46 PM XX is much safe than Miss, we are safe. Said to be healthier, start with the keyboard tomorrow, first in the fingers!
# 2004-07-23 5:47 PM Kanji I also want to do an investigation, I found that the probability of the programmer was very high after marriage, at least our company is like this, have been born 10 servants in 2 years, 7 of them Is MM ...
The friends around me are also like this. I don't know what everyone feels.
# 2004-07-23 5:53 PM Yanshan Studio Programmer is the worst health in humans! My head, neck, butt, waist ... almost all important parts are uncomfortable, every day, the wife massage is really dizzy. I have recently been exercised, ready to run the body every day!
# 2004-07-23 6:06 PM controllable silicon four years ago, I just made a college, because it is a rookie, a hard time, a computer's Dongdong, because of the high school, DOS, three years, I don't know computer. Three Before the year, because I didn't want to touch more than 60 points for the computer, I continued to study, I was desperately studying. Two years ago, I heard that the computer was looking for a job. For the future rice bowl, I started writing the website. I often hired. Experience, because I learned automation, computer related majors. A year ago, I didn't want to write ASP and started to study Java. I still spent more than ten hours a day. There are several part-time write code to late night. This year, graduate I have found a software engineer position written by Java. There are at least ten hours a day. Fortunately, don't overtilime, it is ok. The happiest thing is to get every day, you can get a dinner in the kitchen after work. Reality What can I do ?! Cherish yourself. # 2004-07-23 6:13 PM thyristor I saw Li Kewen walking on 9cbs, nose sour, although I didn't know him. I heard too The multi-programmers have seen the news and news that the body, have seen too many examples, I can only bless all programmers including themselves, live well.
# 2004-07-23 6:16 PM Switching Blades Domestic Software Corporation does not look at the programmer, but as a one-time use of goods. Sad, sigh, pitiful.
# 2004-07-23 8:41 PM Yu Limin! I don't know when I can be as idealized as "people"!
# 2004-07-23 8:46 PM Don't want to do it, haha ... 嘿嘿 ... ... fuck ... and overtime ...
# 2004-07-23 8:59 PM 嘿嘿 We will get off work every day. The project has not officially begun to start after the start of the other group is 12 o'clock every day! ! My god! ! !
# 2004-07-23 9:35 PM ShowerXP I have been a programmer for half a year. From Monday to Six, it is 8 o'clock every day, and at 8:00 pm, he will recharge reading at 11 o'clock. Sunday is half a day to sleep. I play myself in the second half. It is generally more than a dozen hours every day until the foot feels like expansion.
# 2004-07-23 10:07 PM life life is forced, helpless! Helpless! ~~~~~~~
# 2004-07-23 10:11 PM Pain and happy to say, if you enjoy the fun of your work, you will enjoy life. I said, if I enjoy life, what kind of work can bring fun!
# 2004-07-23 10:12 PM TGW is only ink to squeeze time, or knows how to use the time, there will always be time to exercise, the key to see you will not be willing, don't want to pay attention, and pay attention to nutrition, even if you just eat more Some fruits
# 2004-07-23 11:15 PM HaozidixionG Mine can earn 5000-8000 for a month, otherwise no one is jumping in the fire pit? It's better to make a mine. Usually don't pay attention to protect yourself, who is looking for? ! ==================================== Dream. . . . .
I just graduated. . . How did you feel so tired? ? ? ?
Will you work overtime every software. . .
Don't say this extreme. . . .
#! 2004-07-24 12:07 AM Alex Gzy looked at the stickers of so many layers, attributing, China's software industry did not separate ..... Experience I am in software school Reading college students, I am still going to be a big one, I wrote a four-year program, high school passing the intermediate level. From DOS to the current vs.net and java. Change is fast, people should be ignorant .... I have written every day 12 hours or more code. Although it is a reading, it is not much smaller than normal programmers ... Recently, I have to write 17 hours tomorrow .... Looking at the code you want to write every day, I want to cry .. .. back pain. Hand pain. Evergreen .......... The tragic experience in the past four years and more and more weak body .... Now I have 50kg to go to ... ....
# 回:: "Don't know the blessing, I don't know the blessing SoftWorms" 2004-07-24 11:07 AM xingy softworms: If you are a programmer, I doubt how far your programmer can go. If you are not a programmer, I suspect that your heart
You have made a few small problems: 1. "Don't say they are not a person," no one said they are not people. It is discussed here that a programmer's health problem is not a health problem of miners. Mining workers are very bitter, but this requires their self-rescue and national policies. This is not the programmer can solve. If you are self-living by the spokesperson of miners, please go to the mine. 2. Any group of people can find or psychologically find other people who are poor than they. If it is just because someone else is more happiness than himself, I don't think it is much smaller than that.
# 2004-07-24 11:22 AM CODER Dry Artists Four years, basically written some garbage, holding a low income, work is easy, work for seven hours every day, go home in the evening, hitting a book, I want to postgraduate, mix a little bit, I think it is very good. If you want to work more than ten hours a day, then I must have to eat, I don't want to eat, I don't want to stay in such a company, why do you have to do so hard, and a good software development has also accumulated some experience, and then Looking for the work of CODER is not a difficult thing, why bother yourself not to have you? Don't get it for a few years, the company has collapsed, the body is also collapsed.
# 2004-07-24 11:50 AM FREEDE I like to do it, the road is still long, I should learn to take care of myself earlier, don't think that the programmer is that the code is desperate, and the people who eat the bubble, that can only say it is Side understanding. I think there is not much difference between programmers and other types. I should not have a lot difference. I am also because I like this profession. If the company regulates how many hours, how many hours, I think I will Select leave. I don't know when we can talk about how we make your design is complete and elastic, the code is elegant, the system is fast and robust .... Don't use it here to discuss us is "hardship" (I Personal is full of payment of hardships) or the so-called "blue / white collar", in fact, this is not important.
# 2004-07-24 12:41 PM RomandaccessFile If a convenient manufacturer wants to find a spokesman, I think I am the most authoritative one!
# 2004-07-24 1:23 PM ZJ 1 If it is because of hobby programming, it is 17 hours a day, then don't complain. If it is required, you need to dry 17 hours, then consider whether it is your own problem, it is not possible to improve it.
2 Any occupation will have occupational diseases. Drivers, service industry practitioners, selling physical workers, are they all dining on time, is it 8 hours a day?
3 Don't eat breakfast is personal habits, not a career imposed.
4 No one is desperate, not just you, so don't complain about it.
# 2004-07-24 1:39 PM HELIOS Those dry and living live more than the programmers are healthy
# 2004-07-24 2:22 PM Magical 蟑 其 I think I haven't used it, just let everyone vent it, and the body's devastation is certainly unable to make up, but who can say what it is. No way; I feel that the programmer cannot get the respect for other industries is the most sad, "Oh, that is, the writing program", miserable # 2004-07-24 2:30 PM aa Everyone is desperate, I can't complain. People who have this logic are garbage.
# 2004-07-24 2:42 PM engraved 聽聽 聽聽 聽聽 聽聽 聽聽 聽聽 聽聽 聽聽 聽聽 聽聽 聽聽 聽聽 聽聽 聽聽 聽聽 聽聽 聽聽 聽聽 聽聽People who have this logic are garbage.
Is there a low-profile emotional color? Is it in the online garbage???
# 2004-07-24 2:47 PM Desert Wolf Nationality July graduated, closed in the development ... The 4th month ... The ability to pick the girls is lost ... The loss of language ability is lost ... Digest system function is normal. ...... The vision is no longer reducing the tendency ...
Perhaps it is still short, I don't know the hardships, but most people around me pay more, even more. They are old programmers, they are all worthy of respect, so I can't be flattened by these dedicated people.
# 2004-07-24 3:00 PM No name, my mother does not do this.
# For life, we have to act. 2004-07-24 3:09 PM Xu Xian's compatriots: For survival, for future, for yourself, more happy families. Everyone has to act, knock down the low salary, and the majority of program workers will join.
# 2004-07-24 4:22 pm is not difficult? The actor is not difficult? Workers are not difficult? The farmers are not difficult? If you want to make money, there is no difficulty.
# 2004-07-24 4:27 PM Kao Is the boss not difficult? The money is like flowing like flows. It is inferior software. If you want to develop high-end software, you can't find the ability. Developed websites, database software All are, no one is bought at all.
# 2004-07-24 4:35 PM xiaoyuantian, I am also this year's graduates. In China, I have passed the programs for four months for three months. I have been in the four months of programmer. The two eyes are 5.3. There are also 5.2 when college graduates. Now it feels the pain, the secretions are significantly increased, and the right hand is painful, and the salary is only enough. It is really only for the programmer. Is this ruined?
# 2004-07-24 4:42 PM God Light's Lord, my cervical pain, insomnia ... and even the index of the right hand like arthritis, I feel that I feel like I have, I feel that I don't have the law, it is like this. And happy.
# 2004-07-24 6:04 PM Selissile People Now is July 24th, 6 o'clock in the afternoon, but I am still working overtime! ! ! ................................................ .......................
# 2004-07-24 6:37 PM PPluncle In order to drive the task, I usually go to bed at 3 am, 8 in the morning.
# 2004-07-24 6:41 PM PPluncle is actually not easy, no matter which line you do, there is an impact on health, basically 50 years ago, you will change money before the age, 50 years old, use money!
# 2004-07-24 7:35 PM APJ's investment and output of knowledge, I think the programmer is the most bitter. English, multi-door programming language, continuous upgrade technology, excellent procedures and documents at home and abroad, complex And a wide range of logic, frustrated time debugging ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,
# 2004-07-24 8:09 PM Cobra2222, I didn't choose the programmer's work, I was considering that I was very good, if I really did this, I may lose this very well. Interest, now think about the original decision is correct
# 2004-07-24 8:39 PM Wander I have been developed on the day, the Japanese make detailed design I, we encode. This will reduce the development cost of software. The Japanese is very considered. Chinese programmers are inexpensive. But the country is also advocating software exports. I feel very sad, all this is caused by my country's national conditions, and the national condition determines the personal destiny. To change this kind of "low-income, high-profile" situation, you still have to rely on our efforts (but don't know how long it takes), and improve the comprehensive level of software industry.
# 2004-07-24 10:49 PM Carl I don't choose this line, confused. . . . .
# 2004-07-24 10:52 PM 锣 miners can earn 5000-8000 in one month, otherwise no one is jumping in the fire pit? =================================== I am surprised by your IQ.
# 2004-07-24 11:31 PM Eee >> I don't choose this line, confused. . . . .
If there are other interests or specific long, don't choose to make a programmer.
# 2004-07-24 11:36 PM acetum # 2004-07-24 10:52 PM 锣
Mining workers can earn 5000-8000 in one month, otherwise no one is jumping in the fire pit? =================================== I am surprised by your IQ.
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锣, I am also surprised to understand your understanding.
# 2004-07-25 12:17 Am Driffing after you want to play, exercise ~~
# 2004-07-25 12:19 AM GMPLAYER I understand what is programmer
# 2004-07-25 8:13 AM Ssuupv pain
# 2004-07-25 8:52 AM YOGOLOTH labor intensive industry. . .
# 2004-07-25 9:48 AM The programmer is already a good career in China, don't jjyy, I think a lot of proceedings are the peasants, I want to have my father. Mom, what we are doing now. It also understood what is a programmer, sitting in the office, there is air conditioning soft seat, don't take yourself seriously. Acick of disease.
The following is a comment on Mumei Mei:
Wang Zhizhong, 17 years old, in Guizhou to make a living in Guizhou. A basket of coal 40 kg, climbed 100 meters from the coal pit, then take 1000 Mount Mountain Road, earn 1 yuan ...
Imagine: Let Muzi have a basket of coal (only 20 kg), climb 50 meters from the coal pit, and then take 500 meters, can she still have such big sex?
# 2004-07-25 10:09 AM roads with easy wanders!
Instrument support for a period of time before, never fixed Hue West time! ! !
Don't know how to serve in Fuzhong
# 2004-07-25 11:09 How is the sum of coal coal ratio? Is there a concept of "knowledge"? Your parents give money to you for nearly 20 years, their purpose is reached, you are indeed more than coal workers Comfortable, but think about it, the investment of knowledge is commensurate? Do you have so many books to read it?
# 2004-07-25 12:14 PM Kain miner can earn 5000-8000 a month, otherwise no one is jumping in the fire pit? It's better to make a mine. Usually don't pay attention to protect yourself, who is looking for? !
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# 2004-07-25 12:15 PM For a decade of software people doing software hard, but it also has quite challenges and creativity, I think this is why everyone still loves this. Everyone wants to be treasure, in fact, no matter which line, more or less some occupational diseases, everyone still wants you to pay more, exercise more, I will seize every opportunity to go, swim, play, and we haven't worry too. Busy to that level. In addition, a key question, now everyone is increasingly realizing that the piracy is the truly enemy of the programmer. It makes our value worthless, and most domestic software companies are really difficult, except for that Outside the government and relying on relationship. The government should pay attention to this problem. Now China's software industry has indeed reached the crisis, we should promote genuine, but can never be aware of some people, those people will never write a software, even our I have installed some DB in the machine, but we must never promote and encourage piracy. It is two concepts.
# 2004-07-25 12:33 PM Zhang Xiaofan I am learning computer ~ I know that the work will be very difficult ~ I also hope that I can change my mentality ~ I am the most important thing for my heart ~ I hope everyone can relieve my mood ~ Don't be Struggle in pain ~ I have to improve in pain ~ I have learned software for money ~ It is very helpless ~ but it is the fastest way to reach the ideal ~ (my ideal is the fastest happy home ~ I don't say my child. Don't learn good ~) Everything is going to the aspect of what I think ~ Use life to change money ~~ Very good choice ~
# 2004-07-25 12:35 PM AOTIANLONG Do you know? I am doing a woolen accessories. Work for 16 hours in 1 day. Revenue does not exceed 50 yuan. No Sunday, there is no vacation. . .
It is not a living life at all.
I am still writing programs in my amateur.
Anyway, the programmer is relatively different, it is already quite lucky.
You said that you sit on the side of the computer every day, not happiness? Don't you go to pick the brickles every day as migrant workers, is it happy to earn less than 30 yuan a day?
# 2004-07-25 12:44 PM KKK originally the place where the programmer is in pain, that is, a miner, actor, peasant, boss, a more suffering from the wool shirt, etc. In their eyes, I can sit on the side of the computer, I am very happy to blow air conditioner, it is really ridiculous.
# 2004-07-25 12:46 PM agreed with the objective reality and a taste of others is nothing to do if there is anything ignorant.
# 2004-07-25 1:24 PM I think this is the origin of the programmer, thinking that their working environment is good, holding high wages, is a mites.
# 2004-07-25 2:31 PM ignorant
# 2004-07-25 3:25 PM Wolf everyone will take care, after all, only physical is your own, I really don't like to do it, I will change it early.
# 2004-07-25 3:43 PM LCRAZ Ideally Programmer is a happiness in a realistic state of the programmer is not as good as the miners more than Muzi's stream # 2004-07-25 4:01 PM runoff It is a disaster that the media!
# 2004-07-25 4:01 PM runoff is a disaster that the media!
# 2004-07-25 5:19 PM JJYY actually pulled a piece of miner, cold
# 2004-07-25 7:08 PM EQUN actually self-health is still self-employed, with programmers, and absolute causal relationships
I have said that I have a long time. When you are sick, you know the importance of your body.
Each morning / night is calcined for 30 minutes, the body is natural, and what is the profession of programmers?
The key is that your personal self-cultivation / action!
# 2004-07-25 9:57 PM Ithink79 agreed upstairs. Work up to rest for 10 minutes, wash your face activities. Remember to have breakfast. Take a break.
# 2004-07-25 11:17 PM is too bitter, the programmer is too bitter, but. . . .
# 我 我 说 "Don't be in Fuzhong, I don't know the blessing" 2004-07-25 11:30 PM Landmark, our ten-year cold window (actually hanging ten years), what is the miners do? If you compare the refugees with Afghanistan, you still feel that you live in heaven. Of course, it is not that miners are because they don't study hard, they also have a miners, and there are many reasons for society, but in any case, I am motivated, your metaphor is very inappropriate. The miners are of course people, but Bill Gates is also people, why don't you compare with him?
# 别 别 中 中, do not know the blessing. 2004-07-21 8:15 AM SoftWorms compared to those excavated miners, the programmer is still not bubble, the big air conditioner is blown, there is no surprise Laung in office.
Don't say they are not people!
# 2004-07-26 1:19 AM Tommy 1, pay attention to cervical spondylosis 2, pay attention to protect vision 3, pay attention to ensure rest time 4, pay attention to adjust the life
# 2004-07-26 8:13 AM Father, my father is in Huaibei Coal Mine. At the age of 48 this year, the captain of the captain, the monthly salary is about 3,000, the hard work is hard, but it is really tired, but there is the minimum guarantee! As long as you don't have an accident, there is a fake in the New Year, there is something, just 24 classes per month, 6 hours. Pension is expected to be around 1600. The annual medicine fee subsidy will be a hundred (even if you have no illness, it is not disasters), if it is a job, even if you are estimated to fall in the bath, the medical expenses are all inclusive, specializing in people's care. There is a subsidy in the mine in the purchase, and the building is the coal mine. The price is much lower than the market! Contrast programmer, now a lot of software, the network company, the network company, is often the poor salary, I don't know when you kicked you, I would like to enter the big company to enjoy the high treatment. How many? And large companies often attach importance to the health and working conditions of employees. What is discussed here is a programmer's health problem, not comparison (compared to those excavated miners, the programmer is not bubble in sugar can, big air conditioning blows, there is no surprise, sitting in office Sao.), Someone has someone, if someone discusses the health problems of coal mine workers, is it the old agricultural ratio of coal mine workers and farming? In addition, I think the old people are the greatest, no, no one, no one wants to get into a thing (like a problem in the 70s, hanging programmer).
# 2004-07-26 8:49 AM a sentence to sing the opposition, standing, talking, no backhache
# 2004-07-26 8:58 AM MHLIJD Finally, some people have come to "explain" miners. The programmer has a biggest problem. It is not guaranteed! After 35, consider "retirement". And the miner is guaranteed. There are many houses! # 2004-07-26 9:02 AM unknown people do not discuss these topics, they will do! Will act.
I feel that we are like the southerners in the past. Just say no.
# 2004-07-26 9:20 AM upstairs not discussing these topics what to discuss, what to do, what to do, what to do
# 2004-07-26 9:21 AM feels that hearing the voice of the peers, full of too many emotions and shock. But I don't know what to say. Maybe it's a heart to think about it, plan it.
# 2004-07-26 9:56 AM In fact, please take care of your health!
What should be done is to call more.
# 2004-07-26 11:13 AM Water Molon I am a programmer, not afraid of hard work, not too busy. Take care of your body, so you can happiness.
# 2004-07-26 11:36 AM LWGLUCKY I want to tell everyone, everyone should have a plan for their own life, busy / tired, but everyone should put energy in the right place. I have chosen is that money can be less, but rest and study time must guarantee, otherwise I have been 35 years old? ? Can everyone can manage people? ? After a few years, I finally made a graduate student this year. I didn't intend to write back the program. .
# 2004-07-26 11:42 AM MXSTAR strongly recommended octadia to 5 minutes a day, solve the cervical vertebra, the motherland medicine, the profession is not deeply affected
My cervical vertebra is not good, I have practiced eight paragraphs, I feel more than 5 minutes a day.
How much is you talking about eight paragraphs? free
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# 2004-07-26 11:44 AM Wang Yi! If someone cares about that, it can never say it to me: pay attention to the body.
# 2004-07-26 12:27 PM IWngufe programmer is just a kind of work, there is no need to make any difference with other industries. 8 hours to get off work, if you have to work hard, if you have to get off work, you can complete the task, or your level is not hurtful or planned for no circumference, or your boss is too hated, or you don't apply this line.
# 2004-07-26 12:34 PM No collar why others are in nine nights, but we have to work overtime? Why do others spend the first month, we have to cultivate "internal strength"? Why is you already selling a soul, but we still let us sell the flesh. Dear boss, we call "white collar"! Why do we have to compare with some people.
# 2004-07-26 12:38 PM Zhengoodman, I am also a programmer, and there are so-called occupational diseases, but this is not a job. It is caused by playing games. Because, work is busy, I will not stare at the screen, Staying for two hours. But playing games can even keep a posture to play.
# 2004-07-26 12:45 PM agreed with the freak view to agree that the gentle tire view agreed to freak views agrees with freak perspective agreed freak views agrees with freak perspective agrees with freak perspective agrees Agree of freak views agreed with freak perspective agreed to spectacular views agreed with freak perspective agreed to monster views agreed with gelf tire views agreed with freak perspective agrees with freak perspective agrees The tire view agreed that the gelf tire view agreed to freak views agreed with freak perspective agreed to spend the views agreed with freak perspective agrees with the freak perspective agreed freak views agreed with freak view Views agreed that the freak perspective agrees with the freak views agreed with freak perspectives agrees with the freak perspective agrees with freak perspective, agreed, speech, agreed The freak perspective agrees that the freak perspective agrees with the freak view, the consent, the consent, the grouper, the consent, the grouper, the consent, the consent, the sympathetic, the consent, the sympathetic flower point Views agreed that the freak perspective agrees with the freak views agreed with freak perspectives agrees with the freak perspective agrees with freak perspective, agreed, speech, agreed Welcomer view # 2004-07-26 1:21 PM avang These days and several brothers are doing websites, staying up late, can't eat dinner, sleeping, responsible for the brothers who are responsible for the picture, I feel a few pounds. .
# 2004-07-26 1:32 PM Solike I have lost your hair in, and too much evil, everyone pays attention to
# 2004-07-26 1:38 PM avang sympathy. Solike.
# 2004-07-26 1:46 PM [Lim] Andy 嘿嘿, I am climbed, I have worked for a year, although I painted the code very happier, but there is no more people, there are few people, clothes are also Cold, the most fear is that my eyes are half-meter, but also the display rate is the biggest number ~ I have eaten a new year's alcohol. I have been accumulating for a few months. Now I want to sleep during the day, the thief god at night .......... I have been, I climax, I still go back to read my international trade, at least to ensure my health ~ At least psychological can balance ~ At least I still have an interest ~
Advise that child (嘎嘎, I am 22 years old, everyone calls your children, I also showed you the so-called personal website, the first unfortunate, that is, the web is not cleared, second, code is downloaded You basically some ASP may not ~ third even if you are diligent, this is limited, or cherishing the University is tight. You can only make a meal. You have no talent ~ Strive to everyone, you have no competitive advantage, and many times, you don't have the relationship with your technology. When you apply for salary, you have to make a cattle ~ Deliver your work, you have to blow up, you don't understand anything, understand It is to see your confidence you give him ~
# 2004-07-26 1:49 PM [Lim] Andy avang I am in the South Gate ~ I have to go back to study ~ I don't do any website, I have time to get a small thing to collect information ~
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# 2004-07-26 1:54 PM Tiqiu I have been working for a year, kicked the border every week, I feel okay. Everyone should strengthen exercise.
# 2004-07-26 2:20 PM morning sun with friends to do a month, but only more than 5 hours a day, my eyes can't stand it, I don't know how the programmer came over, good Hard work, so pitiful! Everyone should pay attention to the body, be sure to take the time exercise! ! !
# 2004-07-26 3:02 PM frisk I do three years, now I am doing software in a US company. Seeing some of the other friends in the above friends, I feel that I am still happy. Every day, three meals are normal, sleep half a hour in noon, at 5:30 pm. On the weekend, overtime cards, can also relax at the company's door, study 20 years, do software for three years, the eyes are still a bit uncomfortable. # 2004-07-26 3:14 PM Blue Sky I have never put programming as a job, I as an interest to see, when I rest, I also can't do it, and what leadership it is My eyes can't see
# 2004-07-26 3:32 PM Jack My eyes are completely broken
# 2004-07-26 4:24 PM WeixH software industry is still in the most primary development stage, in fact, industrialization, software is like making traditional industries, such as the supplier of all production parts, etc. What we have to do is only the last process - the total installation, the parts are produced according to the design requirements of the automobile, achieving professional industrialization, high efficiency and high efficiency. Reduced resources for waste, can reasonably use resources, reduce duplication of construction and great reduction of moving strength!
# 2004-07-26 4:26 PM Xiaojia everyone came to complain, I also had a belly complaint. So I also came to complain. I have been a so-called PG has been more than in February. I don't know how much value created, but I know The weight reduction is 5 kilograms, the vision is 0.3, except for eating, normal life, I have 100 yuan left in my pocket. Waiting for the meager salary next month. No residence ........ ..... So don't say that you are a software engineer. That is just a face, name. I think that migrant workers are still very pleasing. Successful people doing software come over from this bitter day? They are so hard to build Above the pain of the next generation engineer. They forgot to make the prosecutor's destiny, think that they are going to change the bones. I don't know what kind of colleague, so ..... You are still struggling. Prepare for a day to change the bones, etc. They are old, dead, exploitation the next generation of opportunities to turn themselves.
# 2004-07-26 4:27 PM WeixH software industry is still in the most primitive development stage, in fact, industrialization, software is like making traditional industries, such as the supplier of all production parts, etc. What we have to do is only the last process - the total installation, the parts are produced according to the design requirements of the automobile, achieving professional industrialization, high efficiency and high efficiency. Reducing the waste of resources can be reasonably utilized, reducing the re-construction and great reduction of labor intensity!
# 2004-07-26 4:33 PM weixh programmer, treasure! treasure! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
# 2004-07-26 4:42 PM Sean 8: 00-12: 00 in the morning, 2: 30-6: 30 pm, after a dinner in the afternoon, go to the sports center to turn a circle (there are all kinds of forging body Equipment), about 1 hour, more than 7 months, no physical discomfort
# 2004-07-26 4:49 PM thirsty enrollment, I am 6 years old, I am struggling in junior high school, I will enter the university, learn to do a year, I wish to change my, I am willing to keep me. The programmer dreams, but I don't want to use programmers as my life. After all, this is not a long way. This year, I graduated, except for a bit of programming technology, I have no one can find a job for me. Special long, then only the programmer, for my programmer's dream, there is a contradiction, I have achieved this dream, but I think about escape, 2 years later, may still test the computer, nothing Just for my IT dream, but never want to be a code machine, this is not a programmer, can only be said to be a CODER. # 2004-07-26 5:09 PM Hello No matter what, I just want to say a word, it is not easy to do !!!
In this society, there is much more hard work than the programmer, and there is much more influence on the body, but the income is less, so, do itself, continue to move forward is the correct choice. Complaining is useless !!!
# 2004-07-26 5:29 PM Xiao Feng In fact, from some extent, it is a bit like a scientific research, all of which is to do, and the level is scientist. However, the matter of the programmer is the project, the project must have progress, it will come out, so I have to think about it, it is desperately and urgent, plus the cold and ruthless, will only exploit, you will try it with a little sweet. The boss's pressure, turning an originally created work into a boring and heavy mental expenditure. It has a serious consequence of everyone. The damage of brain is more serious than the damage of physical strength. Neuraneath is more painful than the damage of the body surface. . . . For health, in this software environment, it is gradually away from programming.
# 2004-07-26 5:37 PM Tourists Quote "finally someone" explains "miners, the programmer's occupation has a biggest problem, there is nothing protection! After 35, consider" retirement ". And the miners have Guarantee, the house is more!
"Who said 35, I have to consider" retirement "? It is not a nonsense, of course, physical strength, energy is very important, but I want to think about some large projects, only a few, a group of 20-25 The aged Freshman can take? If there is no experience in "old" people involved, the large project is not experienced, the BOYS can only take only by some energetic and energetic boys. It is not a talker!
# 2004-07-26 5:53 PM Crispy nearest eye itching, I don't think the steel wireball brush
# 2004-07-26 6:17 PM One of the priorities are heading, if you can't keep up with the pace of the entire team, then you will be horses!
# 2004-07-26 6:20 PM Miracle I am a senior software engineer with eight years of experience, except for the don't have any other problems. My experience is that the physical condition of the programmer should have its own guarantee. As mentioned in MXSTAR, 5 minutes a day, eight paragraphs, the neck shoulder for half an hour, can not say that all diseases are all odd, at least there will be no cervical spondylosis inflammation. It really cares about the company's health, is the programmer himself. If you are lazy for a 5-minute simple gymnastics, who can save you?
# 2004-07-26 6:21 PM Miracle except => In addition to myopia. The dead pinyin, huh, huh # 2004-07-26 6:51 pm dong first, I want to cry SECOND, I want to say that all Chinese programmers speak, I hope to take some resources as much as possible to ensure the body.
Third, I am determined to change this status quo. I feel that the times must advance, and our programmers are also the most important push power. Our way to improve, better knowledge sharing, better module definition, better life around facilities and health assurance. I even thought that the programmer's physical exercise is included in a development cycle, and all the bosses should be responsible for their employees.
Maybe I am a naive, but I set this ideal today, just like I have a good programmer, I will definitely struggle for this ideal!
# 2004-07-26 7:14 PM Ye Kaiki everyone speaking how the programmer how to work hard, I have also made a few years, and the code written is also a lot. But I have always feel that it is not tired, it is also very accomplishment. Many people are tired, I feel that I am looking for themselves, I have it around me. It seems that it is not a good programmer who is not going to stay up late. It seems that it is not tired to have a heart. I don't have that work is also very good. I admire from school, now I can like this industry, if I have a chance to come, I also choose this.
# 2004-07-26 7:21 pm coom is it. I hope that the programmers pay more attention to the body. I also hope that the company also thinks about their body, properly reducing their work burden. Everyone works together to exercise. Remember that the good body is all the money. I can do anything, but I just want to be healthy.
# 2004-07-26 7:43 PM Sunny dried 5 years, there have been three lumbar vertebrae can't stand up
# 2004-07-26 7:46 PM Sunny calculated, 500,000 lines of C / C code, 50,000 lines ASP / HTML code, plus 50,000 lines Java / SQL / ... other code . Basically, one line can get a dollar.
# 2004-07-26 8:18 PM - Ye You have to show superiority, please find a place, what is it? I think you can only feel lucky, but should not fall here to the stone, otherwise, I despise you.
# 2004-07-26 8:19 PM AAA can get a piece of money I have already made a fortune, huh, huh.
# 回: 程序注 程序 健康 健康 200 2004-07-26 8:33 PM I don't know if I am studying, but I really want to know how much programmer can earn a year, as you say so, don't compensate in salary I seem to say that I can't say it.
# 2004-07-26 8:44 Who will pay attention to programmers? ! ! ! Programmer himself? Enterprise manager? The pressure of the work, the pressure of the boss, the pressure from the customer ... calling.
# 2004-07-26 9:07 PM shit is not affected, impetuous is 150,000 lines of C / C code? Automatically generate it.
# 2004-07-26 9:56 PM XYZ 150,000 row C / C code? Automatically generate it.
Oh, automatically generate? ? Do you write the program?
# 2004-07-26 10:48 PM FZYMR remember that a colleague was said that we were programmers: the cow horse who did the pig dumpling is bitter.
# 2004-07-27 2:26 AM EEE Things have more than 10 dying programmers can't go home
# 2004-07-27 2:42 AM Weiman I first worker is 14 "CRT will not dry day and night!
It is more happy now, with liquid crystal.
There are many small procedures companies or used CRTs with 15 "
I used to help my friends to engage in companies, but he is really 15 "second-hand CRT.
I can't stand it, I use itself with my own computers and 14 "TFT.
After that, his management is incompetent, it is not properly used, I am leaving, he still owes more than 6,000 wages.
The programmer can really be miserable ~~ IT is to exploit the boss.
# 2004-07-27 8:43 AM 8 years programmer SoftWorms is why, I can't help but say (usually I don't swear), you TMD
# 2004-07-27 8:46 AM BEC Don't come to him, maybe it is 9CBS deliberately to come out to attract human eye :)
I am also a programmer. There are also three years. In the 3 years, in addition to Computer or Computer. The current physical strength is getting worse. Every day, it is tired. Tired. Temper Getting less and bad. The income is so low (and the consumption level) ... I think the programmer must not only endure the fatigue of the body, but also to withstand a strong psychological burden (manager's pressure, customer pressure, the whole industry The pressure of the environment, the pressure of learning ...............
Tired A !!!!!!!!!!!!! 1
# 2004-07-27 9:33 AM sunny # 2004-07-26 8:19 PM AAA a line can get a piece of money I have already made a fortune, huh, huh ================ ====== No? How have you been working for a few years? Is it a big enough strength to be 50,000 in one year? A project will take a 1/3 time to write code, 4 months a year, have 3 thousand words a week? The time to calculate the unit test of the unit, it is already possible to do more than 10 hours a day.
# 2004-07-27 9:50 am Shepengtao Really, I made a year of development feel so tired, so tired, every day, my cervical vertebrae can't stand, the peers, we are really very bitter
# 2004-07-27 9:57 AM NEO A common blog actually leads to so many returns, except for shocking! Now in a big company, it feels well. In the past, I went to a small company that I won't arrived. It was a nightmare, overtime every day, and smashed you with a child. You can't give you a face. There is no "respect" word at all.
# 2004-07-27 10:16 AM Ming Pigeon. In fact, everyone must understand that according to software engineering theory. The programmer is a low level in software development. No matter what you use Java or C , The same. The real level is a component, software designer. You don't have to complain, try it. The programmer is like the migrant workers on the construction site. This is no doubt. The problem can not rely on their own efforts to become a foreman (Software Designer). To be an architect (SA), it is difficult. Because it is a foreigner. :)
# 2004-07-27 10:30 AM Cool Programmer is really self-abuse, others don't say, talk about yourself, sleep after 2 o'clock in the middle of the night? why? Insomnia, habits. . All. I have almost have had breakfast for almost three years. . Anxious, and girlfriend sometimes a fire. Oh, sometimes hate yourself. Li Kewen is gone, we should also consider it! Don't say it. Military and programmers have their own advantages and disadvantages. I want to say who is better than anyone.
# 2004-07-27 11:20 AM still read some books? Mom, do a web page to write a program? Is it a college teaching web? Or a high-employment teaching page? Write more code with a fart? Write more things, then complain.
# 2004-07-27 11:24 AM Don't take yourself seriously. Both writes a web page, database guy. Don't give people to the Chinese. Tell you what is written. Use mathematics, graphics, and C / C / STL / assembly language Write a 3D program is a write program. # 2004-07-27 11:58 Am Autumn leaves The brother is right, now China is multi-database, how to use the application software, Don't manage the CS or BS, it's all applications; there are fewer people developed, and there are still many people who know the compilation, and less people who are compilating, and those who are proficient in compilation. The truth is simple.
The underlying talents demand is very large, there are several kernels that can be very proficient in Linux under Linux, proficient in the entire system principle.
Architecture application, now most of the practices have no systematic analysis (I refer to small company), and small software companies have warned a lot of proportions. I am a non-specialist. With my own, I have done the seat of the company's technical supervisor, and the work is very mixed, network security, project analysis, and some of the applications of their architecture need to architecture their core code. But you can't blame the application, after all, this is also a national condition.
Yes, please correct it.
# 2004-07-27 1:05 PM Shun Yili This is a programmer? Is it a programmer? I don't help them talk, help the ASP to talk, because I am engaged in ASP, I know
Talents who really engage in production control.
# 2004-07-27 1:09 pm LostMyself ======================== =================== I have suffered such pain, 555, I have to spend money to buy big pills. Hey, the Chinese programmers ..... .................
# 2004-07-27 1:39 PM is inconsistent with the questions who think that the so-called underlying is the person who is the master, because they feel inferior, the world is twisted in their eyes.
# 2004-07-27 1:56 PM SZ_BOY You should share how to reduce
# 2004-07-27 2:17 What about PM CCL, counting a million line of code, why don't there too many symptoms? ? ? In fact, the health of the programmer, many times, it is necessary to rely on the environment to put the mouse in the most comfortable position, put the keyboard in the waist or more 20cm, etc., etc., can eliminate many so-called "occupational disease" electromagnetic radiation, no It's so horrible in the rumors, as long as you don't have bad habits that work in the chassis, just worry about your mobile phone. The problem of the display, in addition to placing the best font size and setting up the highest refresh rate can alleviate most of the eye disease (in fact, this is also related to genetics, my left eye is actually rose after work, and I have risen by 0.1) nerve Question ... This is going to blame our own, who told us to do a problem in late a day? But ... this is the only real occupation disease ...
# 2004-07-27 2:19 pm stupid child! The key is to pay attention to your body, work hard during the day, and do what you like to do. That is, you have to have the ability, there is a personality, the boss needs to use you, don't dare to be you! I am going to fitness every day, haha, now my body is great! I hope everyone will take care of yourself! I took half an hour to run half an hour in the morning or at night, everything is OK! # 2004-07-27 3:02 PM supports the fitness man as self-improvement, although I haven't exercised it for several years ~~
# 2004-07-27 3:30 PM Funstar programmer can say that even if it is not in the office, the heart is still in the office, the brain is thinking about the project, it is afraid of a point of error! I have to consider how I have been after 30 years old! Worried that girlfriends are willing to stay with their own sputum! When the rent is expensive, I have to pay again, even if I have been doing it for a lifetime, I can't buy the house!
Ugh! This is my personal feeling!
# 2004-07-27 4:42 PM QQQ everyone work hard, everyone pays attention
