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Title: Talk about my view to study computer graduate students [transferred from Tianya / 9CBS]
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Reply to the few points of view of 9CBS and Kaoyan, (in order to avoid quarrel, solemnly declare, I am not a master
, Just a sense of personal, welcome, welcome, thank you in advance):
On my own understanding, talk about my opinion on the study and software academics, it can be smirked.
If you have actual development work experience, I feel that my level and strength have entered a plateau period, urgent
Need to improve theory, the computer college is the only choice. Because the computer college can make you in theory
On the next level. The Software Academy did not bring you this aspect from the teaching plan. Of course, can it be more
The floor is ultimately depends entirely on yourself. Special explanation is that work experience is not necessarily equal to development
Experience, I have seen a lot of work 2-3 years, but there is no experience in development.
You said: "They all have strong development skills, just don't like reading, just hope to mix a degree.
In the future, there is a benefit in the position ", I can guarantee you, what you said is absolutely not a strong development ability
People. Because, 1) Master is impossible to read; 2) Master can't want to mix a degree; 3) master
It is impossible to contribute to the reasons for the degree.
It is also necessary to explain that people who take the computer may not be all masters, strict, most of them will
Program. In other words, the meridians still account for the vast majority. The brothers who graduated graduates only took 2500 yuan.
Around the left and right, so don't send a high salary to earn a postgraduate diploma. However, for
Those who actually develop work experience must think that they have a real improvement in 3 years, the computer college
It has a broad platform. As far as I know, I have more than 20,000 yuan every month (Shanghai Yubi, graphics special effect algorithm)
design). Therefore, the difference between graduate graduates is very large. So, don't ask "graduate students"
How much can I take? "To ask" How much is the graduate graduation like me? "This person
Home can answer you accurately.
The so-called "actual development work experience" means that you have the following capabilities: 1) You already think C
and assembly languages are very simple languages, and can be used in place; 2) You can think of it within 30 minutes
The correct five-child game AI algorithm design ideas and directions; 3) You fully understand why STL is so important; 4) You can
Solve all compilation and link issues independently, even if you have never encountered problems, you don't need to inquire
Ask anyone; 5) English website is your primary information source; 6) Can read international standards written in English,
For example, NTFS disk format. 7) You often stand in the perspective of aggregation algorithm; 8) Ability to understand
A simple driver, you can understand a simple 3D interactive program; 9) You can recognize linear algebrans and
Probability Theory is extremely important in actual programming; 10) You fully understand COM design ideas, especially
Understanding COM is designed to be like this; 11) When I said the important role of the virtual function, you will not be anxious to find
The book is turned; 12) You can say why C is better than other language, remember this reason should come from your development experience, not because others say this. There are still many judgments, but if you
At the same time, there are more than 5 or more, you can think that you have experienced corresponding development. Reading research in this state, you
The maximum value of the research benefits will be obtained.
The most important thing to study and study is to understand what you have to do, you can't wait for your mentor to tell you what you should do.
The advantage of graduate students is that the theoretical skill is deep, and thinking is penetrating. Of course, the programming ability must first pass, no
To read the postgraduate, you still don't know where the winmain function of the MFC program. So, during the postgraduate period, you must
To do theoretical depth algorithm design, such as the search algorithm of large-scale data, performance is the primary consideration,
Don't expect the SQL function to help you solve the problem, all questions must be solved by yourself, you must solve the
Performance bottleneck for exemption exchange. For example, the 3D scene generation, graphical transformation, collision detection, physical properties of the Needed Speed
Simulation, texture mapping, lighting model, etc. These are guaranteed that you can get more than 20,000 months.
If you think these things are too difficult, if you can't do it, then you are not suitable for reading. Really,
It is what you think is that you still have to engage in general programming, such as software, such as information management systems, then
The value of your study will not be reflected at all, because these work does not need to be read research.
The Software Academy claims to train software development talents, IMHO, I have never seen that master is training
successful. There is only one way to become a software development master: self-study! Software development requires a lot of programming practice
And independent thinking, only in this process, you can gradually grow up. Software Academy claims to train software items
The manager, this is even more funny, in a sense this is deception. Inside the college can cultivate software development
Manager is a full lie, software project manager must, or emphasize the war in the war. No
The project manager of practical experience is a embroidered pillow.
To be honest, the Software College is a Mongolian institution, the public relations work is very good, good at advertising,
And it is a high-paying scorpion, just like the North Big Jade Bird Training Class. Two words: Mongolian
! Four words: still is money!
In summary, if you just want to be a software development expert (for example, it is considered to edit the driver or anti-virus soft
The piece is the kind of master). It is recommended to work, don't postgraduate; completely don't have a work experience, it does not recommend postgraduate
You have come in and only have a blend. If you have the above experience and want to be a senior software engineer (can
Software engineers who independently understand and design fast Fourier transform algorithms, then strong proposal
research. The postgraduate will have a chance to relax in three years, and there are also a chance to accumulate precipitation in 3 years. non-
Other opportunities for rare. If you don't postgraduate research, this opportunity is a extravagant, expectative and unable to be a kind of extravagance.
extravagant.
Therefore, no matter which case you are, you will not recommend the Academy of Software. Unless you are a girl,
For a graduate student as the biggest satisfied girl.
) The opportunity cost problem about reading. The opportunity cost of reading and research is indeed very high. Anyone can simply
Calculate it. So, I don't agree that all people go to study. Reading and study is only suitable for those painful mathematics
People in the extreme importance of the process. If the extreme importance of the theoretical tools and theoretical thinking, there is no understanding of the skin.
The value of reading and research is almost zero; the benefits of reading and research are: a, put yourself on an academic and engineering intersection; B, let you have the possibility of entering Microsoft and other world top software R & D institutions; Remember
Personality. But not reading and researching this possibility is 0; C, as mentioned earlier, if there is no chance to study, you have no
Some calm down to study the opportunity of several years of theory; while working with high salary, learn various theories in depth
Do you think this might? I think it is impossible, I think I need to study and study the theory of research is one.
Long-term quiet and unique environments, reading a book while reading such an environment, you will feel that every day
Are tired of running. And the study can provide such an environment. I also opposed the tutor all day.
Run behind your ass, which will waste a lot of time. Reading a computer graduate, mainly relying on yourself to see the latest
The literature, I have to study the literature, and the verbal exchange of the instructor is enough for one month, and the premise is also a tutor.
The horizontal is enough. If the tutor's level is no cow, this is nothing to do, ignore him, do it yourself
Come.
2) About postgraduate teaching quality problems. Frankly, the country is "there is no good people in Hongtong County", especially
In the field of calculation, the big bull is extremely small. Then why should I go to study? Well! Harvesting the harvest of the study in
The name of the famous school or a teacher I think is that it is destined to fail. Reading and research hard, graduate gaps
All is reflected in self-learning ability. Another person asked, since it is self-study, why do you have to read research? The answer is: because
For reading, it is to buy a insurance for you, just buy a self-study insurance that will not be unemployed after three years. This guarantee
The risk is mainly a psychological backing, so that you can get temptation in the process of self-study, and you can set up
Looking for the solid footprint of computer theory development, looking for hidden from Euler, Malaysia, Gauss, Kangxi, Tuling
Jewelry of methodology. If there is no guarantee, you have a self-study at home for 3 months, and you will be the pressure you will be unemployed.
Why do you talk about peace of mind?
3) About the problem of practical experience and theoretical learning. This did not conclusion, as mentioned earlier, management information
Division, equipment driver development, tool software development, software virus analysis, etc. These work is not needed,
It is patient and experience, it is necessary to understand the exact understanding of the norms, this kind of development work is best for real
The war is improved, and the theoretical learning has no effect. But in artificial intelligence, pattern identification, image compression, virtual
Real, huge amount of data retrieval, natural language understanding, computer graphics, etc., theoretical learning is absolutely
Relive status! Breakthroughs in these areas are extremely huge for human life. Certain collar
The domain is in an extremely rapid development, such as computer graphics, believe that all the kings can be 3D from many
The game's brilliant neutrality recognition is my statement. In these areas, if there is no solid theoretical skill,
Everything is so distant, no matter how much time you spend, it is programmed.
4) The knowledge structure problem of senior R & D personnel. First, declare, I am not a pure theoretical radical division
The child, that is, everything is not important in addition to theory. I think that the programs of programming skills are the most basic but also
It is the most indispensable skill. Without this foundation, all computer theories are empty (research map spirit can be calculated)
Except for researchers of sexual theory). With this basis, the following theoretical learning directions must have a focus on breakthrough: someone finally posted,
Cannot recover three times in a row,
There is also a period of replenishing.
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1. Scientific philosophy. This is the core of the core! Unfortunately, there is no such thing in the country. Not only don't start lessons, but also
As a critical object, it is really regret! This is a discipline that teaches you how to "fish", in one
Cut scientific research is the most intimate position. It is an ancient and modern research method and a collection of thinking methods, it is difficult
Imagine a mature researcher does not have its own methodological system. Science philosophy is the most needed to understand and total
Complete, its thoughts and revelations are accompanied by our lifetime.
2, interstitial relationship, matrix method, discrete structure, diagram method, and clustering method.
The most important understanding of these theories guided the important revelation and method of practice. I always think that if you learn one
After the theory of the door, I don't know what the theory has, then your theory is white, what you do
Did not fish. So, before you learn any theory, ask yourself: What is it used? Where is it used? how is it
use? With these questions to learn theory, you will really learn things. Use these three questions to ask you
Teacher, his answer is the best standard for judging its actual level.
3, thinking must have strong penetration, learn to see the motives that the author does not write. Most large
The teachers have the habit of concealing their most ways to reveal the meaning of the meaning. Newton and Mr. Hua Lugeng have
This bad habit. This makes everyone think they are genius, because many problems he think of, we can't think of it. but
Why can we think of it, don't we think? What do they think of? No one tells us Newton discovery
Thoughts on the law of gravitation, of course, Newton can tell us his thoughts, but
Yes, he can point the "golden finger" of the stone into the company but did not teach us. Our task is to cultivate
The article looks through the intentions and motivation behind the author. In this regard, Taiwan's Houjie and the US Donbox are absolutely
Aquest. These two old foxes (huh, I love said) with its hound average smell, smear stripping, one
Unveil the behind-the-scenes design motivation behind COM and exposed under the light days, and another macro architecture of MFC
I made a perfect surgery. Its extraordinary thinking is amazing.
4, English. English itself is not important, but the literature written in English is extremely important. So, specialize
Loose English as a heavy action. Don't believe in the meaning of English unused. For computer
In terms of English, English is your mother tongue!
5, there are still many other specific theories, but it is not as important as these three aspects, because I think these three
Aspect is the most fundamental, global capacity culture link. What needs to be pointed out is, a lot of high-profile theories are for you.
The work is meaningless, and it is true for time. Be sure to use the highest efficiency time to learn from the most decisive theory.
5) Question about whether the way out after the study is. We should admit that after reading, your work
The opportunity is not more, but it is less. And the more masters, the less working, and the less work range.
This is because, the more engaged in the company, the less the number, the less people in this circle. You look for
The smaller the scope of the work, the test: If Microsoft's OS design expert is looking for work, he can make him choose the public
How many people do you have? However, the reduction in this number of companies is compensated by the sharp rise in salary.
The full respect for your work is not enough in the general company. So don't worry
High-tech can not be used, huh, you will only feel more and more, it is not enough. I believe that I received a headhunting company
People will experience it. The real master will never worry about the work, and never go to the city.
Go to work on the court. Since you have chosen the theoretical deeper, you should put your eyes farther.
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Oh, some truths, don't expect to learn how much you learn from the instructor, mainly to give yourself a chance to learn, but honestly say that the price is quite big, so Russia does not consider the discharge study, unless you find money MM is relying on the mountain, hehehe.
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I always think that if you have learned a theory, I don't know what the theory has, so your theory is white, you have not yet. --------------------- This sentence is more appreciated, but you have made China's higher education, hehehe.
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1) You already think that C / C is a very simple language, and can be applied to the ground; 3) You fully understand why STL is so important; 4) You can independently solve all compilation and link issues, even if you have never encountered Question, you don't need to ask anyone; 5) English website is your primary information source; 6) Can read international standards written in English, such as NTFS disk formatting standards. 7) You often stand in the perspective of the collection algorithm; 9) You can recognize the extreme importance of linear algebra and probability in actual programming; 12) You can say why C is better than other languages. These all are all in line with, but I still feel that I have a shortcoming of graduate students. I think it is now necessary to take the mathematics foundation. Computer science is the specific implementation of mathematics. Programming has passed the primary adaptation period, and now we must find a breakthrough in the algorithm. The algorithm is the soul of the program. Thoughts, thinking, or thinking. How can I close the idea of authority, how can I generate this outline, this is the problem I have been trying to solve. Complete theoretical foundation, a lot of practice, a lot of information and code. What is required is time, energy, and a uncomfortable heart. # 回 回 我 我 我 我 法 看 []] []]]]]] 200 200
Wonderful, unique. On the side of work, learn a variety of theories in depth, are you thinking about this? I think it is impossible to agree to this, I will find that I can't balance between work and learning theory. I miss the latest theory that can learn the latest in the school carefree. I am from mathematics, or I feel that the theoretical basis is not enough. However, this is some sentiment after work. Indeed, I have not worked for a year or two, and I may have a little "study" feel.
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I am in the Software Academy, it is true that I can't work with the school, I have to work hard.
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It is really reasonable
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"Actual development work experience" means you have the following capabilities now ----------------------------------- ----------- Dareful to the above views, maybe you only use it for software design, if you don't say much. If you are lucky, then your point of view is a bit biased, in addition, it is necessary to improve the software design status. In fact, the difference between software programmers and the sanitation workers is only different, and there is nothing difference.
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Is the above point of view? The world's top programmer John Carmack is not like this to go to the postgraduate study. If you don't have today's success ~ I really can completely let the application are all completely released to develop this is not very realistic.
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I am learning to manage, the situation is different from you, haha, but I always think that people do their best, you can dig your maximum potential is the most effective way. China's current academic world is not good, relying on them to put themselves Enhance a new steps is the delusion. # 回 回 谈 我 我 我 看 读 看 看 看 看 看 看 看 [看 [[200]]
According to you, even if you want to have improved, you don't have to go to study, you will have a good job to you, you can save the next tuition, but you can save the tutor. Used for self-study. In my opinion, the key to the study is that you get an environment. In this environment you can get the resources (for example, laboratory, library ...), which often is difficult after step into society. It is obtained, in such an environment, give full play to self-study ability. The difficulty is that for many new graduate students, I often don't know what I have to learn, I can only follow the mentor, so I have a clear goal after reading and study is the most important.
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I think that for a graduate student without any development experience, he lacks a direction, do not know what you have to learn. As the landlord said, only the theory's importance is to participate in the in-depth study of the importance of work. Only such students will ask the theoretical class teacher what should he talk about? Where is it used? How to use? Otherwise, even if you ask, there is no profound experience. What I still want to explain is that the appearance of the master is a loop reciprocating process. On the development of China's software industry, the development of undergraduates after 2003, there is no chance to contact the in-depth theory ( According to the document writing code, you don't need to know the random process), so you will lose the opportunity to grow. The study is a helpless way to get this opportunity. It is not to say that graduate students have graduated. After obtaining the opportunity, I found my shortcomings, I also got an guide, I know what I have to learn. I still have to learn, and then work, then learn, and work ... so the master appears. This should be an old saying: theoretical guidance practice, verify theory in practice.
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The master's growth is a looping process. When there is no actual development experience, it will not ask his theoretical class teacher. What is the use of him, when is it used, how to use it, even if you ask There is nothing deep. Only when you participate in the actual development, you will learn what you want to learn, you will go to learn, ask, then work, study, work, ..., this master appears. At the old words, theoretical guidance practice, the verification theory is verified. But what I want to point out is that the above process is to pay a higher price in our country. In 2002, the undergraduate student graduated after 2002. The development of their business has rarely have access to the work to be deeply theoretical (looking at the document writing code does not need to know the random process), thereby losing the opportunity of growth, and reading Research is a helpless way to get this opportunity. The two years of studying research is what I said, just get a chance, real learning is behind.
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At the time of the school, I always feel that I have a better job in order to find a better job. Now I read this article, I feel that my original idea is how simple and ignorant. Effective thinking, agile thinking level, solid theoretical foundation is the purpose of reading and research.
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Many of my colleagues is a graduate student. I feel that the level is really high, but it is really a high level, it is really much better than the three-school undergraduate studies, the level is generally, even if so. The basic in English is not bad, personal feelings, no matter whether the postgraduate, the quality and ability of individuals determine a person's level, the diploma is sometimes just a piece of paper. The only advantage of postgraduate is that there is sufficient time, energy, and rich resources to help you improve, and this is hard to achieve, and I have been working, and I have been married, it is difficult to achieve. But after all, when you have worked for many years, the salary is not much lower than most graduate students, the cost and risk of postgraduate will be too big.
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Agree to the general point of view, but the landlord seems to be C, C flow. . . Oh, even if they don't need them, it may be big cow. . . He is a feeling of reading the caster after work.
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Don't expect to learn how much from the instructor, I have a deep understanding of this sentence! I have changed myself to read a postgraduate student of the third-run University. The tutor's character made me confused, and I didn't say what academic ability, plagiarism, forced students to find a project, but also give him a researchers, There is no PC in the laboratory. Don't say it.
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I see the first few words I think the landlord is definitely not engaged in being developed. It feels that the teacher is cheating.
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Extremely agreed with the view of the landlord, I am the Software Academy, but it is still in an effort. Individual still believes that there must be a certain development experience to postgraduate, then there is a clear goal, know how to improve himself from theory.
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But the so-called "actual development experience" proposed by the landlord "means that you have the following capabilities: How many undergraduates can understand if I choose to study?
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Big brother, I can ice, the naked system is too late 360 degrees, then rushed to 270 degrees seriously !!! # Reply: Talk about my view of computer graduate students [Transfer from Tianya / 9CBS] 2005-01-31 11:25 PM You
Write very well! Means for me more goals and more clearly achieve their goals
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Although I don't have to do it, this article is still a lot of learning, combined with my actual situation, to arrange my own path.
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It is too profound in the computer field. If you really put everything into it, you will not see anything. Still in a somewhere, of course, there are more than a big hunt, the postgraduate college is not wrong, say too much empty talk, then, the roller is not crime, but I don't think the theory of Row List, the columns can explain what. Take your own path is the most important. If you buried the chick into the soil, I think it is to rape the earth, then you are God!
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Too plane, thinking that the application of enterprises is a low hand, only in-depth underlying is a master. I think the computer's learning is in two directions. Up - high abstraction; down - high integration. China's students have been behind, from our education, from our textbook
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The view is a little extreme, not everyone needs to be a master, the Software Academy is to cultivate workers. To improve the theoretical saying that only read research is even more absurd.
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Write a good writing
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There is a little reason to analyze, some views are right, especially mathematics, yes, mathematics is the father of the computer, too important.
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Write a good, I support! China's education system has problems! To tell the quality, not the quantity!
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I feel that this article is still quite good, but everyone is different. I am not learning computer majors. From a professional perspective, we are more concerned about the application of computers in various fields. The computer itself cannot create value, and only its valid application to the specific industry, his value can be reflected. 1. About reading graduate students, you must think about your needs first, you can't meet your needs through reading and research; The role is still quite big, the more like this, the more this, he won't teach you on Code, but he will provide directional guidance for your research and thesis. 3. Is the Software Institute really deceived money? Nowadays, the software college is more than the one who is looking for. Do you have a fool? It is also known that the school settings this major is also based on the state's investigation statistics on talent needs. # 回: 谈 我 我 我 看 计算 计算 研究 研究 [法 [[] []]]]]]] 200 200
In fact, I have always wondered why China's developers always like people who know algorithms as big cows. In practice, they don't need all people to think about these problems, and can help companies build a complete application. Analyze the business process of the company, ... the computer is not only used to play games !!!
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Top now, many people will receive a degree as a business, which is caused by the social distribution system. The system is developed for everyone, so it can only be used as a standard.
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I still like the atmosphere of the school very much, and I really want to go to study. But after the work is honest, at least now I feel faster, learn more. I feel that I'm going back to school is getting smaller and smaller. However, regardless of the graduate education, you have to improve a grade or need to cultivate it.
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This kind of rotten text actually sought after, the programmer is so universal, it is no wonder that people in the examination will so much
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I am also the student of the Software, my point is: the landlord is only a word, reference. 1. I don't agree to do software, I need to understand a lot of algorithms. The algorithm is a special field, each person has various people. You can write a beautiful graphics algorithm, not necessarily the algorithm of the physics, in other words, the algorithm itself has many branches, people are impossible to notify Xiao. Algorithm is required to study, the mature excellent algorithm may become a company Core capital, such as Google. However, experts from studying algorithms do not have to distract to learn software engineering, why? Because of division of labor. In turn, a software engineer needed to grasp the project from the overall situation, do MIS needs to understand business , Doing the underlying development need to know hardware, what do you know, otherwise you can't do it. But how do you know what you may do? What can you do, it is necessary to adapt quickly? Quickly study. Postgraduate is more than undergraduate, more than knowledge, but the eyes and learning skills. If my postgraduate studies are graphics, then I am sure to find a profession related to graphics? 2. The landlord's evaluation criteria is very detailed. It is precisely because of the details of these standards: the landlord, these standards, must be related to the landlord's knowledge structure, the landlord must have seen << COM nature >>, <
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Look at your article is really tired, do you want to put a big sum?
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A person's ability finally decided on his ability to discover problems and solve problems. Whether it is an individual's business, reading and research is just a way.
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Bill Gates is not finished in university, how can people be so coward? Chinese is this kind of thought, the master is not all from the graduate.
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I think the master's librarism does not refer to the proficiency of the college's complexity to analyze the complexity of the algorithm, but can use the actual problem to perform mathematical modeling and set the existing algorithm or propose new algorithms to solve the actual problem. proficient. In practice, it is needed to be able to independently propose solutions, rather than only those who have achieved in accordance with others think.
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The mystery of Go is that the universe is true.
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I guess the landlord may be computer graphics, in order to put mathematics, algorithm to the first place to treat # Reply: Talk to my view to study computer graduate students [transferred from Tianya / 9CBS] 2005-02-03 1:44 PM It's all right, it's too hard to do it.
The post of the landlord is really written, and I know that it is a programming master, and then I have admitted to postgraduate.
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The road is coming out, is not everyone who can become big cow, the programmer is to be practical and peaceful!
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How much work experience is there? How many projects have been successful? How many failed? Say everyone! See if you want to get a graduate student, or the graduate value is not worth it?
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In fact, there is a certain reason, doctoral, master, learning is a way of thinking, and forming your own ideological system according to your own characteristics. Theory and practice are unspeakable, the degree does not mean what, Under certain conditions, there is no to achieve the corresponding realm. As long as you have a heart, you can meet.
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The article written is very good, but it will have a deep disappointment after reading. People who like this industry want to be this real, technically hard-working graduate student who says the landlord, but every person has the opportunity to contact these cutting-edge works as the landlord. I can't afford to develop a simple system. What kind of graduate landlord is attacked, don't you know that many people have accumulated such a program experience, and those who don't have strength don't rely on these simple programs to carry out the original accumulation of capital, it How do I have the opportunity to survive to research and development of these high-end technologies? The time in China's software industry is not very long. It can grow up with the social and economic development. Commercialization may sometimes promote people blindly pursue academic qualifications. The graduate students have no chance to come into contact with these. So did not have a graduate student, maybe you can't see these things. First learn, then have the opportunity to come into contact with these theories, encounter these problems when you work, then go back to learn, this is not bad? Perhaps the landlord is a geniic-style person, and the general "class" is more than. However, it is like a person who focuses on learning to learn, I am afraid it. There is no knowledge of enthusiasm, like in the dark.
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There is no knowledge of enthusiasm, like in the dark.
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Really, to be what you think after reading and study, you have to engage in a general programming, such as software such as the information management system, then the value of your study will not be reflected, because these work does not need to be read research. The landlord means that if it is just a general business system development, do not need to be read research, which is true, do you think these knowledge is necessary to study?
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I think this is the benevolent side to see the people, and the road will pass the road to Rome. I am a graduate student who has graduated from the college. Why? Graduation direct test graduate high! So ... other places compare the landlord said, but I feel that I have finished the test, so as to avoid work, work, family, etc., the high-level Zhuangzhi is full! # 回: 我 我 我 看 计算 计算 研究 研究 研究 研究 [[[[[[[[[[[[[]
My angle is a accumulation, a realistic practice, what you said, the landlord said it is clear. The key issue is to think about the idea of the problem, and the conclusions that may be derived have a big error. Do you want to discuss it? You may find different voices, different views. I never thought about you. This is also another way of supplementation.
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I read this article, I think it ~~~~ The training college is ~~~~~ Fool, please understand, this is this article, not what I said, because I am also training Class, and it is the master of the landlord to the name ~~~~~~~~ Northern Grand Bluebird ~~~ People often say: "Master introduces the door, practice in individual." But you don't have a teacher's guidance, you know what is a door? Programming, what is a computer language ~~~ Is it a person who will read it, no teacher teaches you, will you? You don't know how to learn computer, do you understand computer books? You have no teacher to teach you to learn English, do you have no posting, then I can only say ~~~~~~~ Admire ~~~~~~ I think the training class is also a way to learn programming? ? He teaches you how to learn his method in a short time. As for the experience, you can only go to work, and we will take things that will take a minute to make him spend an hour, even longer. Yes, let your self-study, a computer language takes too long, and it is not good. What is the era, time is money ~~~~~~~ Of course, self-study is also very important, studying methods in training courses, it is your own selfie, why is the same teacher, final The gap will be so big, this will ask yourself. The above is just my personal ignorance, please don't joke, thank you.
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The landlord said, I have an objection: I'm looking at your things. I feel that I have to admire you, but I think about it. Oh, there is nothing, but it is a tree in this field. Here is to talk to all the programmers here, is it inevitable? In fact, you have a wide area point that you have in this field, saying so, don't you feel too naive? Even if you said: "The so-called" actual development work experience "means that you have the following capabilities:" You don't understand this 12, you don't know, just like it is My brother said that I have to learn new knowledge is the most important. Then I can ask what you like C . Do you think C is what, how to develop! ? It's all like this to say that there is no one to do anything, just say that we can't talk too absolute, and one flavor says that this is absolutely saying "Northern Grassbird". is it right! Human society is like this, and it is from low to advanced, from behind, from dark to bright, from the mother to the loess. You can say that you have not on the primary school, junior high school, high school, university and even graduate students, is you eager to come slowly? You can't come to this cruel world. I want to say that the landlord is just that someone can recognize it in this field. There is no more recognition of many people in other fields, because you are already in the way you talk. Just say that you have a wonderful process to show it. Reaffirming that the north big blue bird is better than you, you are just a machine. At this time, it is just a technology-based robot <-> human machine. # 回:: 我 我 我 我 计算 计算 研究 研究 研究 研究 看 [[[[]]]]]]]]]
Software Academy is the garbage is true
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But I am tired, what?
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Everyone seems to argue, the same thing, Bei Daqingbird, Software School, Computer College. Graduate students are different.
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Of course, the social division of labor will also have different levels of talents. This we cannot deny it. Purely compiled code, engage in sales or management, do not learn what algorithm. But it is necessary to become a top master in a technical field. Top? That is to do most people will not do things. All day Timg Gates will not have much place, he is indeed a genius, technology, vision, leadership ability is first-class, history will not come out again. people.
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I think people who think about me, suitable for learning computer, not software engineering. However, due to the limitations of brain capabilities, it is impossible to learn all mathematics. You can only choose a few best for you. Personally think that some thinking skills do need talents, such as abstract algebra, this is the worst mathematics I have learned. And IMP I have been able to learn from the logic. The algorithm and data structure are the soul of the program, both of which are combined to play. I am not the kind of person who likes mass production software, so I don't like to design software as a project. There is this requirement in the unnivade unit, but there is no way, but it is impracting the work efficiency to avoid tasting too much time in the duplicate labor.
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In addition, the market opportunity is too limited. I like to study the operating system, but who is accepting me to work? And some things are just to be interested, it is really important to do it, but it is boring. Therefore, even if the things of the study have not been used in the work (most graduates will encounter this after graduation), there is no relationship, in the amateur, study, use! # 回:: 我 我 我 看 看 计算 研究 研究 读 法 [[200 []]]] 200 200]] 200] 200 200] 200 200
Computer training, I feel that it is garbage, especially "blue bird" is the most, so much money, if you use these money in other places, I feel that the effect is definitely good.
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Just so so.
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This article wants to attack what, graduate students. Still now, how is the landlord growing? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Are you a "master" that you have never graduated from elementary school? No, do you not learn the knowledge in school? The school teaches you is the ability to learn, what do you expect to teach you? Java language, in the function writing? Variable definition rules? No, this is your own learning, but the school teaches you how you go to learn. What happened, who said that graduate graduates must have high salary, it must be a cow, this is like, you are sure to learn Math, why are you not Hua Luogeng, Software College, graduate student, The same. I can read research, I don't have to attack it!
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The road is coming out, not everyone can become big cow, the programmer is to be practical and peaceful! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- Agree to this point of view, add one sentence, not everyone wants to become big cow. It's just that there are too many people who are engaged in the software industry, and there will be many people don't work hard.
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People have to work together, take a direction, no matter what field, there will be a tree. Be sure you want to be what you want to be, then you move like you
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B, let you have the possibility of entering the world's top software research and development agencies such as Microsoft; remember is just possible. But not reading and researching this possibility is 0; - disagree with this, China's undergraduate students may also go to Microsoft America, but it seems to need English very cattle.
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Back to the landlord: Look at your article, first of all, I feel that some of your article is correct, but I think you have a very film, synthesized, the master in your eyes is actually ----- - Scientists in computer science. Indeed, these scientists are indeed masters, but the computer is more than algorithm analysis, performance optimization, etc. In fact, software engineering is also a big direction, in this area, this area is basically not mentioned. It can be seen that you can only show that you are not familiar with this block. Ok, don't talk nonsense, you cheat these people Robort C.martin, Martin Fowler, Bertrand Meyer, Kent Beck ...., etc. I don't think they will not say what graphics algorithm. In short, the individual is seen.
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Have an empty home reading. Computer science itself is a discipline of a practice. You avoid practical discussions, just talk about algorithms, there is a taste of pseudo computer science.
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Some views expressed by the top floor have reason, but the overall is too late, whether in evaluating a software master or the judgment software college, and the training institution is too biased. It seems that the author seems to be evaluated as a standard in terms of its own aspects and good at aspects. For example, "Software development requires a lot of programming practice and independent thinking. Only in this process, you can gradually grow up" this sentence is right. But "I have never seen that master is training success." If it is to say that training is useless, it is more embarramented. One or several training will not create a master, but the master can constantly accept training faster. Opening a joke, even if Xiao Feng, Guo Jing's class is also trained, coupled with personal qualifications and dogging, in order to enter the master. Going back, see the first two words of the author, I have said "I can't smile at it", I will blush when I blush, why is it to clam the criticism, and I smiled. ------------- Welcome to the IT people to come to blog, http://everview.blogchina.com # 回:: Talk about my view of computer graduate students [transferred from Tianya / 9CBS] 2005 -02-05 3:50 PM passengers
It is difficult to express a view with text. It is difficult to be rigorous; Therefore, excessive criticism is useless. A certain point of view is suitable for a part of a part of some people and is good in these particular discussion.
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[Repost] [Original: The so-called "actual development work experience" means that you already have the following capabilities: 1) You already think that C and assembly language are very simple language, and can be used here;] cow! A sentence has made a lot of cattle. For example, Alex Stepanov. He said in DDJ in March 1995 "(when developing generid) C is a complex language, so it is not always clear what a given construct mens. Almost Daily i Called andy or bjarne to ask WHETHER Such- And-such was doable in C . Well, it seems that Alex is just a rookie who lacks development experience. No, even the rookie has made C generics, it seems that we will live to the dog. Tony Goodhew said in an interview in Oreilly in 2000, "You Can do Everything In C , It's Offen Complex to Do Anything In C ". by! The leaders of the original Visual C 7 are also a rookie. Let me vibrate your arms: despise Microsoft! . What else is it? Please send $ 10.99 to Citibank, account stopnonsenseandquitbullshitting. The "rookie Daquan", which is sent to the monks, fully exposes the so-called famous cows, including best-selling book Thinking In C by Bruce Eckel, Perl inventor Larry Wall, Python's inventor Guido Van Rossum, Wait, etc., keep you satisfaction. As for the assembly, forget it, it is too lazy to say. But I am very curious, why do this author does not say C and compilation, and C and compilation? Doesn't he think C is a more powerful C? [Original: 2) You can think of the correct five-child vague AI algorithm design ideas and directions within 30 minutes;] It is reasonable! And we should also add you that you can think of the general algorithm for machine learning in the uncertain situation, the design idea of the large-scale SVM algorithm, the algorithm design idea of expert system knowledge representation, automatically verify large-scale integrated circuits The correctness of algorithm design and ideas, routing algorithm design and ideas, cluster system load balancing algorithm design and ideas, parallel compilers instantly optimized algorithm design ideas and direction, 3D simulation algorithm design ideas design ideas. . . Going to its mother's surgery has special attacks, go to the mother's smell, go to its mother to teach. high! Is it high! By the way, I know how to design the algorithm of the five daughter. [Original: 3) You fully understand why STL is so important;] I don't understand why STL is so important, understand Metaprogramming can't work? Understand that weak typing sytsem can't do? Understand the generic programming of other languages? It seems that all the world's generic programming is similar to the STL.
[Original: Solve all compilation and link issues independently, even if you have never encountered problems, you don't need to ask anyone;】 醍醐 醍醐 top! Don't say anything else, just saying that an experienced person can solve all the compilation of GCC, CC, BCC, VC, TC, Vac, etc. on Windows, Linux, Solaris, OS / 390, AS / 400, BEOS. And connection problems, even if you have never encountered problems, don't ask people. [Original: 5) English website is your primary information source; 6) Can read international standards written in English, and students should do. [Original: 7) You often stand in the perspective of the collection of algorithms;】 Five-body investment! Trouble explanation, how to think about the sorting algorithm with the angle of the aggregate? Don't say a basic definition of the concept of a collection. If so, I use a number of theory, aggregate, measurement, realistic theory, category, Van Dynasty, and functionalism. Boss, tired is not tired? to be continued. . . . # 回: 我 我 我 看 计算 计算 研究 研究 研究 看 [[[[[[200] [] 200]]
On the Advantages and Disadvantages of Practical Experience and theoretical Learning. This does not conclusion, as mentioned earlier, management information system, equipment driver development, tool software development, software virus analysis, etc. These work is not needed, it is patient and experience, it is necessary to understand the exact understanding of both specifications. This type of development work is best suited to improve in actual combat, and there is no role in learning. However, in the field of artificial intelligence, pattern identification, image compression, virtual reality, huge data retrieval, natural language, computer graphics, etc., theoretical learning is the absolute domination! Breakthroughs in these areas are extremely huge for human life. Some areas are in an extremely rapidly developed situation, such as computer graphics, believe that Zhujun can recognize this from many 3D games. In these areas, if there is no solid theoretical skill, everything is so far, no matter how much time you spend on the program. Family and mood, have been confused about me ~~~! ! !
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Two words: very good. Four words: still very good.
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I have seen a lot of discussions above, I feel that many people don't understand the meaning of the top floor, or only some of the sideways will criticize some words. Let's see who is criticized in the article. According to my understanding, criticism should be those who test (or read) computer system, do not know what they want to do in the future, criticism should not develop experience just to delay employment pressure 3 years, criticized It should be a person who just wants to mix a high degree in the competition. Nowadays, the people of the postgraduate have been more than a year, and many of which belong to this class, they are all in the articles to be criticized. If your business is Coding, you don't need to postgraduate. The goal of the postgraduate phase is not to let you learn Coding, but let you have the ability to study initially. And so many people who do Coding came to postgraduate, usually just for a diploma, so they should be criticized. If you want to do Coding, but also a level, such as engaging in design to develop, then it is necessary to read the class. Let's talk about the standards listed in the article about practical ability. First of all, I think no one can list a specific standard because this range is too big. I think the meaning of the article takes a few specific examples. To be practical, you must first familiarize yourself more than enough programming language (such as C , STL, etc.), followed by some basic algorithms, for a problem You can propose your own solution (such as a five-child violi algorithm), and you have to have the ability to read English materials, but also understand the basic mathematics, understanding some of the more fashionable technologies (such as COM). In the above comments, someone is a drill angle, and several examples proposed by the article, do not understand the intentions of others, very ridiculous. Of course, there are some biased places in the article, such as the Software Academy. When I undergraduate, I gave our school software for TA, and some of their curriculum is better than the computer system. Nowadays, the level of software academies in all schools in China is very good, and they cannot be generalized. Of course, if you want to do Coding, don't go to the research student of the computer, you can do it. # 回:: 我 我 我 看 计算 计算 研究 研究 [[法 [[[[[] 200]]]
Upstairs, you didn't understand it? It is concluded that it is based on the text. Where did you get the conclusions of "First of all to a family programming language"? If the author is the same, no one is batching him. Unfortunately, obviously the author knows that C / Microsoft technology / basic mathematics, so these as the standards of judging others. Others, it is this authors' eye and narrow, and there is a special attack in the operation industry, and in the basic mathematical communication, it will open the river in the basic mathematics (it must be used to think about the algorithm in the representation of the aggregate, and the evaluation of several mathematics branches).
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I don't feel that there is no need to be too sharp, and the real so-called research algorithm has several people in this world? It is better to say that those who have proposed pure theoretical algorithms can be called scientists. Now the algorithms used in computer areas are basically there, and the computer sector has developed rapidly, but the mathematics is not In this way, the theory is not a few decades. The foundation for hundreds of years is that we have applied to the application algorithm. People who have the ability to create an algorithm are probably a phoenix river, so I think it is also It is not necessary to use it for the application of the algorithm, and the operation is special.
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Look at all software giants, you know, now the biggest problem in the software industry is not an algorithm, but a large software project architecture design and engineering management. The development direction of the software industry is to build 99% of the system to Java or C # On the above, not only MIS, including GAME (Doom3 is based on C #). The current C personnel lack and high salary are a fault, which is very clear in Joel's How Microsoft Lost The API War. Http: // Www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/apiwar.html I know the graduate students of American schools don't learn Coding. However, it is impossible to learn architecture design and engineering management in the Chinese school graduate school. One person takes 10 or 15 years ago. The C or graphic algorithm learned is also a road, at least more than the mix.
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On the side of work, learn a variety of theories in depth, are you thinking about this? I think it is impossible - I don't agree with this point of view, there is no evidence that it works, and I can't learn theory, and I think, if I can learn very well in my work, it will be the most Good way. Of course, you need to pay hard.
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Look at all software giants, you know, now the biggest problem in the software industry is not an algorithm, but a large software project architecture design and engineering management. The development direction of the software industry is to build 99% of the system to Java or C # On the above, not only MIS, but also Game (doom3 is C #). The current C personnel lack and high salary are a fault, which is very clear in Joel's How Microsoft Lost The API War.
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I work these years of experience tells me that programming languages are just a tool. The most important thing is to use these tools and technology to make meaningful things. You said that you c , is important to see what software products you made? Or, what did you write? C masterpiece? I know the algorithm of Wuzi, saying that it is not used. If you understand, you can only explain that you are not bad, but iQ is not bad if you don't need to know the five sons chess algorithms. Without contributions and practical applications, know more, and it is also.
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Not to say? To see the author writes something in the word line. If the author wrote "sent a flowers and birds", I went to batch flowers and birds, which would make the author fell into extreme disappointment and loneliness. OVER.
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"The so-called" actual development work experience "means that you have currently have the following capabilities: 1 2 3, etc.." The author will take yourself or heard, Luo listed comes out as the terms of "Experienced Development Work". . Oh, there is no rule, ridiculous. # 回 回 我 我 我 我 研究 研究 [[[[[[[[[]]
I like this article, I have just participated in the 2005 postgraduate exam, I feel that there are quite a lot in it, or the more self-study can master my own destiny.
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Yes, I am a computer master student. The author's point of view has a great inspiration to my current learning. During the summer vacation, I have a big time in a SP company. I have no feeling here. The author's thoughts and opinions are I have help, I hope that ChinaBingo can send more posts.
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Our country is now lacking is the underlying code. If you don't write the underlying code person, the landlord said that these leaders have to write, compile, etc., can know, terrible results , Bankrupt, closed, Microsoft does not need to rely on the system, the underlying code staff needs the problem of writing specifications and rules, not coming out, writing those who have no library package, no multiplex
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After reading these, I can only say two words: admire
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admire
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Too absolute! The author is a little technical, but it is a little technical level. Technology is a tool, it is important to create value in technology. Compared with "Value", all technologies are not important. Know that any people who use technologies or know how to understand the technology is enough!
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The landlord is purely self-righteous, don't understand.
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attention! Fully explain the failure of Chinese education!
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"Reading and studying is only suitable for those who have the extreme importance of painful mathematics in programming" support the landlord, except for the Sky
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This is already in the 9CBS batch post and panic. - And I can't read the educators who are "destroying people" everywhere. The landlord's words made me think of another great educator Zeng Yi.
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Everyone has a message, all beings are hard. I agree with the view of the landlord.
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I am hesitating whether the postgraduate study, I have almost decided to test, I have to hesitate to read the landlord.
# 回 回 我 我 我 我 计算 研究 研究 研究 生] 主 主 主 主 主 主 主 主 主 主 学 了 了 了 了 学 学 学 学 学 学 学 学 学 学 学 学 学 学 学 学 学 学 学 学 学 学It may be that you said the algorithm is very deep, but now, I don't have it, but I know the design model, reconstruction, and TDD are more avant-gardid technology on software development, still I don't want to praise me, but at least prove that the landlord is just a one-sided thing. The landlord should not take the software master to know your things.
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I saw 3 times this article.
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In any case, there are many places worth learning from the author that you can adjust your development direction. Thank you! :)
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Say two sentences. The point of view of the landlord is indeed satisfactory, since the name is called graduate, it should be studied as his own goal. If you read the postgraduate, just want to find a good job. It is inevitable to make people feel sorry. Regrettably, I read the postgraduate but I can't do research, but I was self-study by graduate students. But the average level of domestic graduate students only reachabited undergraduate students. The undergraduate level is a mechanic. But Chinese people like to live in literati, China If you have more research, there are not a few, China's environment does not allow you to engage in research. Of course, there are individuals who have their own characteristics. Algorithms are still mixed, don't Important. Important is that you can make money. However, it is indeed 5% of the concept of algorithms in the work. Of course, these work must have a deep foundation. But not necessarily graduate students. The landlord believes that only graduate students do? In fact, this needs talented. Fu Yue algorithm, working now, only once. MS This level is not only graduate. There is also a degree there. . Personally think that China's environment is not suitable for you to do research unless you can make a XXX algorithm, it is passed, but just take 2W one month, it is white. You are a worker. Don't take yourself as a researcher Of course, the landlord is designed in the research field. It is for support. But it is not exempted. The people who do research are not good at communicating, strong communication skills, may not have a complementary. Reading and study has become to find a job And read the facts. It is also a fact that the society has two-in-one distribution, one is the high degree, one is how much makes money. Make money is the first IF condition, the degree is the second. The first condition has been determined No matter what you engaged in research, or mixed the days. Both are NO1.
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Indeed, the big cow is not teaching it out. It is his own learning. The postgraduate study study is just a matter of graduation for many people. It can't find a temporary psychological trap.
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The ancients said: I have my own eyes, I have a good time, I have the same, but I have no one. Laozi: Less, more, more confused. Laozi also said: a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. I think we have to keep a calm mind, don't take your day! ! !
# Talk about my view to study computer graduate students [transferred from tianya / 9cbs] 2005-02-16 10:43 PM Whiteeagle
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Feel a little extreme
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Nice
# 回: 我 我 我 我 研究 精... 自 自 自.. 精 精 精 精 精 精. 精 精 精 精 精 精 精 精 精 精 精 精 精 精 精 精 精 精 博 精 精 精 博 博 博 精 精 精 精For the way, it is to go deep into a light. Nature, as a person responsible for himself. We must try to do "know yourself", understand your goals, formulate your own plans, and struggle for tipping. I like the scientific philosophy of the landlord; I also believe that the theory of the landlord talks about the importance of our personal understanding and solving problems (I am sorry, I don't understand these theories). But some may be biased, because there is really much more people in this world (according to the incomplete theorem according to the German, we know that anyone can't really know yourself), so it is full of Brown sports, but this will make yourself Increased; if the Brown movement is not made, it may be stepped on. Humans have been in understanding learning, but also a tree structure, which is a tree structure. In real social life, we are not. These have told us that at least so far, human society is not fair (isotropic), this is the level. In accordance with the ability of people can do, people can be divided into several kinds: people, talents, people, scum. People responsible for yourself must want to make yourself in the classification, the better. We should respect each person's legitimate effort to make you live better.
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A good article is a good article, but some are biased! Don't bury the landlord, know what people mean by people, don't be complain for some technical words. The operation industry is special!
