Talk to Zhang Yue
The raging people, the story behind each face. - Luo Dayou on September 12 at noon, Baisheng's Starbucks. Zhang Yue is earlier than I am. Although he first heard of the show from Jilin, he rushed to Beijing, and he went to TV news until 3 in the morning. At the moment, the tragic scene of the TV screen was played back in everyone's mind. Instead, it is a fragrance of the coffee seat at noon. Not far from the autumn sun, slowly to the Qing dynasty. We chose the open-air seat, the hustle and bustle of the city, so they made a recorded background. I asked Zhang Yue and about the stories of heavy life. Every face is behind the reporter: "Zhang Yue Interview" started? Zhang Yue: At the end of 2000, I was resting two years later to start making a program. I vaguely think that I need a program I like. I fully understand what I want. Reporter: Is there an opportunity? Zhang Yue: I forgot the end of last year or at the beginning of this year, I interviewed a host of Shenzhen Radio Station, called Hu Xiaomei. I think Hu Xiaomei is a very good host, but I am doing Hu Xiaomei's program, I found that my actual interest may not be on Hu Xiaomei, those who are behind her, the red-handed air boxing People who realize their dreams, she succeeded, many people failed. When I did her programs, I ran in Shenzhen's railway station, see those people, see the railway station public toilet, the toilet is dirty, see the words written on the door of the toilet, I found me to each A writing person may be more interested, what did he experience? I felt what I was touched. I think that I am interested is a lot of ordinary individuals in life, they have encountered anything. Especially in China's 20 years, it is really a magnificent, and people's fate is big. I want to do it, how to say, say "sincere" this word specialty, I think it should be a specially honest program, that is, everyone is really life and fate, in fact, it is especially interesting, but it is complete Different. Reporter: I know that you like Luo Dayou's sentence: "The story behind me to move everything behind him." Zhang Yue: "The troops of Ximei-cho, the story behind each face", this is what I really interested . I think this thing is particularly valuable. It is an accident on the surface. In fact, you finally discovered, really, everyone behind, how could be so rich and strong. It is a living specimen, which is a living testimony today, and every individual is a witness to survive in how the tenacious vitality is survive. This is what I am very willing. And I am learning literature, I said, how do I, what kind of side to shape a character image, I open the fog of everyone's surface, let people see this person's true personality. This thing is that I have learned in literature, I think this thing can make it, it is very fun. Mobilize all life experience to make a program reporter: I especially want to know, how do you prepare before making a program? You face people who face all beings, use their names on the online search without anything, and so many fate stories What should you use? Zhang Yue: Life experience is life experience. You study, you have read the book, but the things in those books can't be used here. But it is your spiritual background.
In fact, it is the experience of your life. Now I don't say that I have to do very well, but I said that I can't do it for special young people. I just finished a show, I was still with my image yesterday. Our camera is a young man, just graduated, the guest interviewed, he specially can't understand, he is speaking with the guest. One of our guests is a girl. When she is small, domestic violence, her father played a mother. Her memory of childhood is the father's hair, hit the pro-head "咚咚" and hit the wall. She is looking forward to his father, don't go home, even if you die outside, don't go home. Just a child. Later, after it grew up, it was very good, her parents were divorced, her mother took her, she worked, and she didn't look at it on the surface. Reporter: Can you have problems with men? Zhang Yue: A very open girl. But when she is object, I am getting married, she is really called "the bride who runs away", she ran. Her boyfriend especially hurts her, and she is a hundred, because she knows the shadow of her experience, so she is particularly good. Then she, she is unreasonable every day, she toss the boy. I asked her: "Why? You are particularly uncomfortable every time you have trouble. When you toss him, I was happy, sad, still angry?" She said: "Look at him is uncomfortable, I am not happy, It's sad. I am happy that I toss him, I am not right, he still comes to me apologize, I can confirm ... "Reporter: It is like a certificate. Zhang Yue: Yes, prove that men are actually good to her. But she can't control it, I will fight with the man tomorrow. After the wedding photos were filled, they were ready to get married, and finally she ran. She is now with another man, and the next boy talks about the marriage, she feels that she may run, she can't get married. She is particularly depressed. Just a child. Our camera has been talking to her, saying: "Two people get along, it depends on who is reasonable, no reason, you are not respecting, people should be respectful to each other. You can't treat your male Friends. "Yesterday I was talking to us this camera, but in fact, you said that he has just graduated, and his mind is all concepts. I said: "These concepts are all good, all right, but there is no one is related to real life." Real life is not that, correcting, no one is one, two is two. I said: "For another 10 years, you may know more." So this may be determined by your experience background, not your education background. In addition, one is your life experience, one I think is your character, that is, you have a true interest in other people. I think "civil society" does not mention this, do you really understand them? Do you really care about them? Do you really interested them? Are you talking to him like a person like him? I don't think you have to be interested in all, non-concept, the true human nature and human feelings, you can enter him. If you are not looking for this word, we say "humanity" and humanity.
I don't know how long I can bear, I'm listening to so many heavy life stories, do you think you can bear it? In addition to Xu Fusong's story, she has to say that she has been sold, has been "Miss" experience, and the result is almost lost, and there is a boy who lost his father to tell you his pain. Zhang Yue: The actual story is much more painful than these. There are a lot of special pain, you should not take it out. We also brought a group of audiences in the past two days, especially, a look, after reading, all our people think that it is, watching the windows, say "恍 若 隔", then we say: " Our group needs a psychiatrist. "In fact, the pain is very painful, we have seen a lot. If you have a sick, this pain is a lot. Those things seem to feel good to solve, as long as there is a real thing, you can help. It is particularly difficult to the spiritual pain, you have nothing to do. And the most touching people are the spiritual pain, no one can force, even if he own itself. But you found that after you have taken each person's mind, there are so many factors that are so unbearable, and he may have not paid out. I used to think that only a small number of dramatic stories can enter our program, and today I think everyone, I dare, I am interested, take everyone, let's do it. Reporter: Some people are not good at expressing. Zhang Yue: Yes, but as long as you get into his personal spirit, as long as he has the desire to say. In the past, I also thought that the guests didn't speak guilty. Will not speak, the ability to express is particularly very special, because you said that some of the topic you said, the fight Who is the ability to express, who speaks, such as this topic Ying Da, it is certain that it is more funny than a normal person who can't talk. But when you enter a truly soul, what will not speak, is there a culture, have no accent, and it is not important to the outside. He can tell you in half a day. When you are stunned, and you will see you have a huge shock. More than the scene, there is a shocking force in some programs. Because that is truly it is sent by his heart. As for toile, I can now, I don't know if I can. Reporter: Are you able to withstand? Zhang Yue: It can bear it than the average person. We are all children from the school, there is no special experience, but I think I may also belong to the kind of very serious psychological experience. So I have had an inner heart, until today, there is also a sense of strong sense of self-defense and frustration. I think this kind of person may be more easier, with others, especially my guests, they are some people who are uncomfortable, and I used to be, even today, of course I balanced very well. But I have had such a process, I am also a person who is easy to felt and inferior, I am also uncomfortable. So when I talked to them, we have resonates, equality and easy to understand each other. If I am a passionate, 踌躇 踌躇, I can't do it now. But I don't know how long it can be born. Free this thing is shared, there must be everyone. - No one in the strange circle of Wang Shuo does not solve the reporter: and a lot of things are not over the end.
Zhang Yue: More than the program itself, sometimes this thing will hurt some people, I have done a "Wang Guozhu to find", a child who is abandoned by the Qing, he is right, he is right, He should know who he is a child, but he raises his parents? He is alienated because of his feelings. I heard that his parents' mother's traduquent, the trail of his relatives refused to give him, and didn't want him to find a pro-mother. We felt that he was very selfish, but when we went to see the father, At the time, the rural old man pointed to the old man. Nursing children and defense are very selfish concepts, but for rural areas, he does not have any other way. Then this child is gone, go to him, the pro, the two old people have been in 70 years old, there are diseases, don't move, but also do the most heavy live in the ground, then don't be good The words, especially sad, when he said that he had feelings about his son, he would express it very ridiculous, he only said: "I also give him 5 pounds, I let him take 200 blocks Money. "Let others listen to what he is especially unfortunate, how can you still have a jrants with your child? However, it is the largest way of the poorest rural old man to express his feelings. He gaves money to him. These let you think you are hurting these old people, but you have to hurt him, because you are not looking for a little bit of your parents. But you just hurt him. Reporter: You were forced to be placed in two difficulties in life. Zhang Yue: Yes, this is a strange circle of unsolveable fate, anyone does not understand. But you just see them hurt each other, and your participation will also cause harm to some of them. It will make your heart very uncomfortable. For example, there is a situation, the guests ask for a program, he agreed, he asked, you know that you may hurt him. You know that it will be a very good program. Do you still do it? Reporter: For example, I have finished the Xu Fusong, have you regretted after finishing? Zhang Yue: We can't say it. Because from the perspective of your career, there is no regret, it is a good program. Xu Fusong is willing to express. Reporter: And her story is very rich, I have seen your article written for her: "How many people do we have in the past? Just we cover, this is certainly unpleasant, and she said, Even because of the impulse, this also needs a bigger courage. The wildfriend of this reluctant, she is not talking about 'absolute privacy', that is meaningless to others, she is a living specimen, one in China In the twenty years of socially changed, in the process of rural urbanization, from closures to open, from ignorance, from poverty to relatively rich changes, a 'personal' won the pain, 'Survival' and 'Emotion', their requirements are so much like this. "Zhang Yue: Yes, and we do not dirty, we are doing this show, so it is certain from the perspective of career. regrettable. From a personal point of view, do you say that you don't regret it? She is opened by this unit. I used to reach the "Hua Dan" reporter in the legs: Your current program entered this kind of benign loop for 3 months, I think your kung fu is far away from 3 months, you use the first thirty Over the years all accumulated. Zhang Yue: and stopped with me for two years. At the end of 1999, I stopped all.
I did that time, chaotic, messy, self-righteousness. I think the general people, most people have no courage to retreat at this time. You may not. But I saw a lot of actors today, the host was desperately "" mixed, talking in all scenes, the kind of self-interesting children, the kind of self-starting kind, pretending this "oh, I am very happy, actually I am not happy. (Haha laughed) I saw myself when I saw them. I have been particularly troublesome, what is the show, what activities participate, and more things are particularly versatile. Reporter: I feel that I can't talk, I don't have the scene that I can't control it. Zhang Yue: No you can't talk about the topic, no things you don't know, I am so smart, I will say a few words, and I have passed the past. I think so, then I have a face. Later, I hate everything. I very much hate me. Reporter: Then you will sway the comedy, is your fire or you are sinking this? Zhang Yue: The fire is. I won't do that. Hey, I think I am so good, I was still as a teacher, I taught four graduated class, and I was writing so many scripts. But I hosted 3 files, and the fixed-term section of the week is 3 files. At the same time, guests also have a guest of countless guests. I think I have endless energy and creativity. I have endless physical strength, I can create a miracle, how you can do it. Later, I feel that I don't want my face, what my stay is. (Laughing) When I started the leaders and colleagues, I didn't think it was, I felt that our leadership was very narrow. Reporter: Do you think people think of you? Zhang Yue: Yes, I am still very annoying. Later, this decisive alarm is really a reporter to knock, "Sanlian Life Week" is called Wang Hui, which expressed serious questions and criticism for my image. He criticized my status quo in that article, but in the end, he went to: CCTV should be like foreign TV stations, can protect and use our host, like my host, you give her proper treatment, Then let her clean the image, but she can't let her fight for a living or a variety of interests, and they will ruin a prominent host. Later, I felt very shy, I can't blame the CCTV, saying that people will not be spending for your salary, or you don't protect you, you will go out. You go out, it is you willing. I lead my colleague has been talking about me, I am happy, this is no wonder others. Reporter: But I think you will wake up sooner or later. Zhang Yue: Yes, I think this is related to the human nature of people. Of course, you will have dizziness, you have not proudly, you have just proud, especially if I have a self-infundant child, suddenly you proud , Then you are particularly beautiful. There is another one, I think I have, I don't like that. I have to like me, I have been mixing. It must really don't like it. So the existence of that, it's over, it's okay. In fact, I am afraid to get along with people: You just said that you are also a person who is uncomfortable, is it very smooth? Zhang Yue: The show I did now is the favorite program I have to do TV for five or six years. This is comfortable. But this is not said that you are a whole person, you are very comfortable. Your frustration, your inferiority, you have no power to life, still.
Reporter: What kind of thing will make you feel? Zhang Yue: What kind of things will make me feel that every guest I have no power when I face. Reporter: Why is it inference? Zhang Yue: Naturally. All people who say "I am the most confident person in the world" with you, I used to say that this kind of people are guilty. Reporter: It can be thought that after you have inferior to Xiaoshou, your body shape is a thing you can proud. Zhang Yue: I will definitely overcome this thing, I will never feel inferior to body shape or long. I can solve this thing. But from the whole as the inferiority of people, still. I am also afraid to get along with people. I am trying to pay attention. Others see me, jokes, people say that you can say that you can say that you can say that you will like it. In fact, I have tightened a string in my heart. After finishing my mind, I am very tired, I feel like I have been playing. You want me to deal with a social scene, a scene of people, and eat a big meal with everyone, I am still tired than to do a show. So let me choose, I am willing to go to the door, one is lying, I am safe. (Laughing) I saw my reporter in the guest: Do you have the most people who do you feel most of your programs? Zhang Yue: There is a person, she is particularly close to me. There is a woman called Liu Fengzhen. She is inferior. Because she has only one eye, it is a bit of oblique eyes, then she extremely inferior. When I was going to school, she married her "one-eyed dragon". Then she started retreat, in fact, she was nothing in her life, and she was very ordinary. But she didn't dare, she didn't dare to participate in the juvenile activities because she didn't dare to participate in the juvenile activities. I didn't dare to develop my own hobby. After work, during the process of getting along with your colleagues, due to inferiority, it is damaged to the normal interaction of others, and the development of her work is damaged. She went to like a man, I was refused, and she didn't dare to fall in love again. Due to inferiority, she is now in 40 years old. During the stage of life, she has been defeated in the stage of life, and she has neither works now, and there is no love. One person. Then her feelings, the feelings and experiences that grow up when they are small when they are small. For example, I am afraid that the school organizes movies. As long as there is a bad person in the movie, everyone will look back at her. I am also afraid to organize movies, as long as there is a fat man in the movie, and the fat man is some of the two hundred and five. In the movie, the classmates will be squeezed to me. She is afraid of physical education class, afraid to go out to play. I am also, afraid to organize the spring tour of the autumn tour, how to climb the mountain? I climbed the mountain, I am very stupid, especially ugly. Sports class did not dare to go, my movement is particularly ugly, running particularly slow, let people joke. Walking on the road, a person in the past, hey, look back, I am particularly afraid, I feel very difficult. I think that that is my only one, jumping in the show. Later, others said to me, you have traces that educate others. I said to her, "You should not try again, you don't do this again." In fact, I am doing to live in another way. But I can't stand it, because she is too like me, you see a person who is exactly the same as you, I tried to struggle, catch a straw floating. But she, you are watching her. I will have a red face with her.
We will only love reporters after learning: Later, you will be named "No way to escape" for the program. But she retired a life, how can there be courage to come to your show? Zhang: She said she would like to say, never said, but she wants to say. After talking, she said: "This is the most exciting day, I have never told others, I don't dare, I will say myself with anyone on the table, I finally said." Actually, I think she is this. " It is a rebellion to yourself. She must hate her weakness. Reporter: Does now have her new news? Zhang Yue: Yes. After the show is broadcast, many people write a letter and call to exchange common feelings. This is still still, the most beautiful thing is that one day she is not at home, then there is a man, bought a lot of eating and a bunch of flowers to see her, go to their home, say: "I don't have any other Meaning, I just want to give her a message, happiness and confidence. "Said that the flower stayed in their home. I guess that she has never received an alienity to her. Reporter: It's really happy that she is struggling for more than 40 years. Look at her and your experience, I think, is it a child when I am small, such as a child ... Zhang Yue: cruel, child is especially cruel. Reporter: It has become a good idea and care for people. Zhang Yue: For the reason, education, only education can make people civilization. Making a show helped me to grow a reporter: I have a feeling of being facing her, you have been facing the same disaster, but you survive it. Zhang Yue: Yes, I am very eager to tell her, how can you overcome the thing, how can I overcome the one. But in fact, she can't overcome it, it is too late, she is too late for 40 years. Reporter: Then, how is this surpass? Zhang Yue: There is no specific thing and what kind of opportunity for one night, but it has a very slow process, you have struggled with it. There are many factors in this process. For example, I'm saying youthful, my character, my nature cannot endure the kind of personally depressed personality, I will be able to jump up. Then you are studying, I am gotting a university, I have overcome all the university graduated. I think you are reading, you are constantly understanding, you know that you have no mistakes, you have not hurt others, you have the right. Then you have read a lot of books, then you start confidence. These are factors. Reporter: Is your program also achieved your confidence? Zhang Yue: It should be said that I first overcome myself, I can do the show. There is no inferior person who dares to sit in that place with my face. I first overcome. But the show hifted my growth, helping my growth quickly. Just like a writer and a special sincere actor, you live in someone else's life, because you can only live in a lifetime, but when you walk into a life, you experience its process with it, once Overwhere, this is a particularly large enjoyment and harvest. We all need to understand each other: If you please use a word to depict yourself, do you have any interested expression? Zhang Yue: If Cui Yongyuan said, "But then", I said, "Do it".
