Things have been derived from the post of the rental house in the jar. I am in Beijing, and he is the local Beijing local people. I was "Purple Moon" (I have a long time ago, many people look at my name, I think I am MM, I am a solemn statement, I am GG, who says that I am MM, I cut him JJ ..) Mortal .NET: Is this expensive?
So far, still sharing, I don't think there is any hope. There, 1000 pieces can rent a living room.
------ 紫 月: Is this expensive? ?
It seems that you still don't understand the market. . Throw it on the heating, the property fee, how much is left? ? Furniture is new, the house is newly renovated. . The small area opened in 2004. . For the environmental cell, it is not allowed to burn coal. . Plus a balcony nearly 30 flat living room. . What is the opening window is a broad green space and a forest (National Forest Park) 1000 rings? The old house in the 1990s is open to the window. It is the kitchen of 10 meters away. . Rent is not only the house itself, but also you live in this community. .
-------- mortal .NET: Such a place, quality is good
This kind of property fee is cost, what is it? Is 30 square meters very big? Forest Park? You go to the big new security ridge, it is not enough, Miyun is enough, the environment is definitely better than now. Quality? If the house is facing south, the sun is sufficient, and it can be considered quality. Do you want to burn coal? Going to bed upstairs, sleep at 9 o'clock, will not argue, do you have to add money? Decoration furniture is not you have, I haven't seen any quality. In fact, it is not my rent, don't make it seem to be something like me, I am a personal point of view, the most all, you are sharing, this price I just feel expensive.
------------- 紫 月:, can you still live in Miyun? ?
People who don't believe can compare them around. . Blue Australia, next to the community, has nearly 7,000 sets. . I don't have to rent a room, I am in Jinan Room 3 Room 1 Hall is still 2000, unbelievable? ? The 1000 room is more in Jinan. . The choice of 2000 is still 1000, how do you think about yourself. . There is also this community, downstairs, downstairs, still 300 months, and no heating, electricity 8 hair, not necessarily empty. . I will put the living room into two single rooms, and the local rental is not? ?
In addition, I didn't say you. . You feel that you have your reason. . I would like to be present, I don't expect this. .
----------- Mortal .NET: Do you say that Jinan 2000 is also shared?
Oh, I lived in the house, 80 flat, 3,500 people have priced, I didn't think about it at all. My sister's house, I have a 2 ring with me (he is outside the 2nd ring), 126 flat, January 12000 rental, he bought a 2 phase in the same real estate, each flat 1w. What is the quality, it's already a rented, it is a living, and what is it? People who say quality must be a rough room, rather than renovate the landlord. Your geographic quality, maybe you can buy a house.
---------- 紫 月: 2000 is 3 rooms, one hall 120 flat a set
To be honest, the decoration and comfort are not as good as I. . . But you have to know that the Jinan housing price is only half of the half of Beijing. . I have a quality refers to the price performance. . Who is willing to spend tens of thousands of pieces to the landlord? ? Let me talk about you or look down on the north (five ring). . How many people can rent 2 rings? ? And if others go to work in Zhongguancun, give a reason for rent 2 ring? ? And I am only 1,000 rent, even if you have to rent a whole, you can't rely. . In contrast, spend 3,4000 to rent 2 rings of dicker's second-round [place good? If you go to work in Zhongguancun, is you also known? It seems that Beijing is more than 2 ring talents? Is it convenient to visit? Can you visit the street every day? One month, 1,2000, I can go shopping every day. ], Killing is also willing to spend 2000 less than renting the North 5 ring. . ----------- mortal .net: Ok, you are also right
I can't see the house outside the 5th ring. However, I have to correct you, the size of the location is not because where you work, it is decided.
The knowledge in this is big. There is a reason for economic development, and there is also a cultural atmosphere, and even feng shui is inside. Isn't there a mall, there is a simple gap in the supermarket. You are willing to take a taxi every day to buy things, then I can only say that you have not changed the habit of the market.
------------- violet moon: In fact, Beijing relative to Shanghai
Which of the other is better than IT Bull B? ? You have to talk about culture, right, your native Beijing people, of course, in the feet of the sky, the only rich capital culture. . But I want to ask you, don't have a culture of the United States, so many people are so many people who worship Mei Mei? ? The center of Beijing IT industry is Zhongguancun, as well as Microsoft, NEC, Sybase, Oracle, SCO, etc., all outside the north. . And I believe that most of the elites are also foreigners. The current situation is that he cannot spend more than 200 million to buy more than 200,000 people to buy more than 200,000 people. . Then, in the eyes of the Beijing people before, it is recognized that the Nancheng Fengshui is not good, so the development of the South City is far behind the north and east. . But I didn't expect that in your mind, it seems that only the second cities are authentic "Beijing". There are other districts called to market, you can look at the present in the city, tens of thousands, almost 80% All of you are talking about 4, 5 rings. . And the only IT to Beijing's long face is also concentrated here. . Corresponding to the following sentence, not personal attack: You are a safe attitude, a typical small citizen's mentality. . The words may be a bit, but I basically basically, if you touch the foreigners working in Beijing, I know [In fact, they have created the brilliance of Beijing, and go to the President of the State, down to ordinary buildings. Workers] If you feel uncomfortable, apologize to apologize. .
--------- mortal .NET: IT industry is the most garbage, don't boast him
If you are in Beijing culture, the film is "the only one is only my alone", then I really want to give you a class, but I still have some self-knowledge, I know too little, not enough to take it out. At least ancient capital, a lot of things are not a unique, it is China, I shouldn't be arrogant, you don't easily negate, forget the ancestors. If you talk about the villa, do you have the villa in the city center? This error concept, I know that there is no flame when you know this word. It is said that the market is completely a joke. Now there is a business street in the city. It is basically not available. There is no mall, the mall is developed, and it is not enough to explain the cultural atmosphere of Beijing. How many contributions did you say for foreign people for Beijing? I never deny that I have never thought that the foreigners did not feel uncomfortable. At the same time, the cultural things, the ancestral things can you? You think that you collect all China, can you create a Beijing? This is not the problem of Beijing's non-Beijing, don't come to Beijing and Shanghai ratio, or with this, and that than, this is a arrogant, I am as a Beijinge, I have never compared with any country in China. Because Beijing is unique, the value of Beijing is not simple, and the data can be embodied. This is contained in China's culture, history, if you can't understand, I can't do anything. ------------- 紫 月 亮: To tell the truth, understand Chinese culture, I am afraid I will not be less than you.
1. The "arrogant" you think below, just reflect the so-called "天 子 我 我 独 独 独". 2. Even if I don't understand the culture of Beijing, I deny the culture of Beijing, I just called forget the ancestors? Don't forget, I am now standing in Qilu, a Chinese cultural origin. . I used to criticize Kong Mengmuli, which is called the ancestor? ? But every place has your own good culture, but there is a bad custom. When I criticized the arrogant culture of the so-called "天子 我 独 独 独 独", I didn't have a whole to negate the excellent side of Beijing culture. Moreover, the authentic Beijing people I have touched, modest and steady still account for the vast majority, and I have not because I am born in Beijing, I will go all kinds of people, of course, the pride is there, I often also I feel some vanity in Beijing. . 3. Economic development, of course, culture is also developing, and those who are not good will be resolutely abandoned. You are welcome, the 5 ring you think is biased by people, and there is no such thing as any quality mentality. . It is also an objective factor in Beijing's traffic difficulties because of the incorrect introduction of the original design. The actual reform is now a scientific and pragmatic practice that lives in the suburbs is a scientific and pragmatic approach, and should not be crowded in the center of the city. Like you can only live in the second city of the Emperor, the conservative custom (culture), why not change, keep this culture, what is it used? ? ! ! 4. As for the villa, I am an example of your feng shui. I didn't say that the villa is the city center, I don't know how you understand. I mean, people who live in villas should be the first person in Beijing's most cattle B? ? How many times is it more than 10,000 houses? That if you are, you said that the sea is not good, then do you still spend so much money to buy a villa? [By the way, now the city's modern people are still so superstitious and feng shui to bring the value of the house, this culture may be everywhere, but here he mentioned such a high height, I have to admire] 5 If you want to say a living environment, the top ten of the eyes are not in Beijing. Of course, Beijing's job will be very good. I think this is also a lot of people in Beijing. They are afraid that only this point is only [at least I am this], but not admiring the so-called capital culture, Chinese culture. 6. The last thing is that the house outside the north is should not be your Beijing Indigenous [I can't think about it, I really can't think of more appropriate words] residents live, so I will discuss these significance. -------------- mortal .NET: Haha, you are too excited.
1, I think I am arrogant, because I love Chinese culture, confidence in Beijing value. 2, if you think that only Shandong people have no opinion, I have no willingness to divide which more valuable. You have to feel that I am arrogant, it is best to give a specific example. If I just can't see 5 rings, I said that I am a Beijingers of the "Son of the Son of the Son", haha, are you excited by Beijing? 3, 5 ring, compared with the case, this is my personal conservative idea? The market has explained, 5 rings are so good, how is the price? I can't live in the city, I also know, so I have the need to take the need, plus macro-control, but I don't explain it in the city. The whole country is coming to Beijing, it will not come. 4, about Feng Shui, I don't really understand, I am not doing business, nor the southerner, they are all understanding, I don't believe it. However, there is no new one, this is part of Chinese culture, and even unlimited China, and cultural qualities have nothing to do. 5, Beijing living environment is good, I don't know, I am not likely to go to where to go. 6, huh, I want to be a responsibility, you have a prejudice to the Beijingers, that point doesn't mean, shouldn't you live? What is you talking about? ----------- 紫 月: It may be a bit excited, calm and calm. .
1. I have never been the love of Chinese culture [even a little worship], you will blame me, I am ruined. Of course, it is a bit excited. 2. I didn't recognize that Shandong is my ancestors, I hope you will pay attention, some temper excitement may have done with you. . But the fact is that the Confucian culture of China's thousands of years [temporarily does not evaluate the advantages and disadvantages], but from the origin of Shandong, the previous emperor has to go to Shandong to worship, you won't know it? ? So I said that Chinese culture takes place in Shandong, should it be exaggerated? ? I am not a Shandong, and the hometown is far from Shandong] As for the feeling of "the only feet of the sky", it is your feeling of your aggressive tone. I have been touched by three people in Beijing, and two of them are my upper level. One is a colleague, I think it is very harmonious with them. They have not given me the very arrogant feeling, but give People feel very real. One of the houses bought in Wangjing, one prepared to buy a house in the northeast four rings. . I didn't have any excitement. . 3. After all, the five rings is close to the outer circumference of the city, of course, cannot be compared with the city center. The city center should be the aggregation of the industry, technology and other industries, while the living area should be moved according to the trend of modern urban development. This city will be better and more scientific and more attractive. As a part of Beijing, you should establish such ideas and support this approach. . 4. Agree to your opinion, but I think it should not be put on the wind and housing value, at least not to set it so much. . 5. As for the living environment, you don't mind according to your personal experience and experience data from others. . Of course, relative to you, we have such freedom, maybe I will move to the West Lake next year. . 6. As for which piece, which piece is in accordance with the actual situation, I certainly have no decision, I am counting? But I think you don't have to despise the north 5 ring, I don't know why, just for tall. .
------------ mortal .NET: Oh, I am also calm, my summary
First establish a tone: this debate is still very interesting. Although the two sides did not agree. Secondly, the external factor is not good. It always has a good temper, but it is always a big man, but the way the quarrel has changed. Now it is pretending to debate, but the form is not important, and many people have been sinned, every day there are I haven't worried about me. . . It is not easy to find a person, and there is another, your logic is still clear, will not let me think that it is very hard. Take another analysis: I don't quite understand, I don't even say that I can't see the 5-way house, even if I am arrogant, I have no idea of the Beijing people "天 子 惟 惟 独 独". " I feel that I never discriminate foreigners, and it is a little particularly paying in this regard. Don't we be easy to see, what do we can't see? Once I can't find something, it is because "the only one is only my exclusive"? Haha, hit! Finally, summarize the unified understanding of both parties: None. ---------- 紫 月: I feel very interesting
But I didn't work this afternoon: (in fact, one of my principles is that we are not easy in Beijing, and I can't stand it in this life is to be despised. I believe there is this kind of Only some excitement .. The feeling of giving me the faintly disclosed in the line in the line is a bit "天子 惟 我 独 独 独 独" .. So I said that I said in the fact that the truth is said ...
Is there anything we have to come to my blog today? ? I just applied, serious water shortage, I didn't have time and ability to write those articles that were not salted. If you can't, even if you don't have anything. .
---------- mortal .NET: Yes.
