Between the nature, China has joined the WTO for three years (November 10, 2001, in Qatar's capital Doha officially signed an entry document). In the past three years, China's GDP has increased by 25%. The total import and export is miraculously. It is like sitting on the slide, and China is growing in the global track. However, we have experienced not only the joy of the third largest trade in the world, but also the troubles of the most anti-dumping countries, as well as the confusion of economic growth models. More than a month ago, we witnessed the fire of Chinese goods in Spain. After the initial intake and anger, the fire was in motion more and more Chinese thinking about "China Manufacturing". Thinking "Free Trade" and "Globalization" meanings. For example, the road to China's globalization is correct or a follow-up road. Whether China has paid too high for joining the WTO, and so on. We believe that the best candidate of these questions is, which is the chief negotiation representative of China. On October 14, Long Yongchao accepted an exclusive interview with the "Southern Weekend" reporter in his office in the Beijing International Trade Center. Textile quota cancels, is Chinese companies too optimistic? We are not afraid of the United States for China's textiles, if China's textile exports, China's own losses account for only 5% -10%, and the loss of the United States and other Western countries account for 90% -95%, in addition to this, the biggest victim People who imported people, China's exporters are also self-discipline. We can't take the strategy of winners. We should take into account the interests of other textile exporters, and also take into account the ability of foreign textile markets to cancel the world's textile trade. The impact of quotas on China is very limited. Advise our entrepreneurs don't rush to grab 2005 time, this is a very sensitive time period, foreign trade protectionists are staring at China's textile exports. It is not in this year to surf the reporter: Yesterday, "Wall Street Journal" logs that the US Textile Association and Textile Industry Union is calling on the Bush administration to extend the import restrictions on China's textile imports, and a comment has been added " This request is in line with China's agreement, as this agreement allows the US and other WTO member States to implement temporary restrictions from China's imported textiles. " This report made us think of whether Chinese companies have been optimistic about the export market after textile quota in January 1, 2005? Long Yong Map: The textile quota cancels on January 1, 2005. This agreement is not changed. This is the same for all members of the WTO. It is impossible to extend the Chinese exception, and this is not allowed to extend China's quota. Negotiation. As for restrictions outside quotas, I can say that we are not afraid of the United States for China's textiles, because restrictions must be carried out in accordance with the WTO proceedings, must be carried out in accordance with China's accession to the WTO protocol, must have a legal procedure It is not willing. And I also emphasize that the export of China's textiles is the greatest, and the worst importing country. China Textiles with good value is very important in the local market. If there is no Chinese product, consumers in these countries have to spend more money to buy other products. So first, I should see this, limit China's textile export, the biggest victim is the consumer of the importing country. Second, China's textile export is still in the low-end of the value chain, and China's export textiles. The Chinese factory can only get 5% -10% profit, 35% of the profits are taken by brand owners, these brands The owner is not the United States is Italian or French company, and 55% of the profits are taken by design links and sales links (including transporters, wholesalers, retailers). Therefore, if China's textile exports are limited, China's own losses account for only 5% -10%, I think the United States should fully consider these factors when making decisions.
Despite this, China's exporters should also conduct self-discipline, do not cause major impact on the importing country in a short time. I am more worried about the excessive growth of our textile exports may affect other countries, especially the textile exports of developing countries. I think that China's textile industry has fully realized this. We can't take the strategy of winners, we should Countries the interests of other textile exporters, it is also necessary to take into account the ability of foreign textile markets. If these two areas have done, I want to quota after cancellation, China's textile export will not have a major impact on the world textile market. Reporter: Do you think that the textile export quota is a signal that China entrepreneur is an increase in investment? Long Yong Pu: In the truth, it is like this. In the past, there were some textile exports to quota, and China has strong competitiveness in the categories of these textiles, of course, will expand market share after quota cancellation. However, the role of quotas cannot be exaggerated, causing an export growth of China's textiles to achieve the impression of canceling quotas. In fact, the products that are really affected by quotas are only 10% -15% of China's textile exports, and 85% of textile trade is long-termized. Many people don't know this situation, thinking that the past 100% of textile exports are limited by quota, and the quota will be removed next year. In fact, the truly affected is that 10% -15%, we can't first exaggerate the impact of quotas, and then exaggerate the foreign response to the textile quota cancellation, which is a serious misleading. Reporter: In the summer, the reporter saw a lot of entrances, and the decision-making basis is to cancel the quota will be canceled next year. But recently we have noticed that some entrepreneurs have returned, because there is a continuous new message, such as an expert in the Development and Reform Commission's foreign economic research, for China's textiles, the time that truly realistic freedom is not 2005 On January 1, 2009, January 1, 2009, as China's joining WTO Working Group report, paragraph 242 stipulated that special restrictions on China's textiles will have been implemented to December 31, 2008. Long Yong Map: The design of textile is not a comprehensive limit, and it is not unreasonable. It must have a certain legal process. Don't take it so heavy in the past few years. In fact, China Textiles will not appear. Exports therefore a large scale. Reporter: This special restriction measures affect 10% -15% of you just mentioned, or for all China Textiles? Long Yong Ping: For all textiles, there is no need to worry too much. The US textile industry can only meet less than 5% of its entire market, and China's textiles are exported to the United States, and the US benefits are far more than the Chinese benefits. Brand owners, retail and wholesalers, and apparel design companies in the United States and other Western countries, and advertising companies take 90% -95% profits, these people have more motivation to stop the limitedity of China products, so we don't need to worry . But I still have to advise our entrepreneurs don't blindly invest, don't rush to grab the 2005 time, this is a very sensitive time period, because foreign trade protectionists are staring at this time, all are watching Is China's textile exports will surf over this year. So this time our export enterprises have a little self-discipline, which will be good for the image of the entire Chinese textile export industry. How do I understand China for the cost of joining the WTO? ● (The controversial terms) are not as big as some people think, from a sense, this is still a positive terms, which is actually forced to engage in our governments and companies. Economy ● At that time, we had a lot of compromises in many places. We used these two to exchange many other compromises, such as the capital market that does not open China, the renminbi does not accept the exchange under capital.
For the outside party, how big is this! If there is no such concession, today RMB exchange rate has to be adjusted under the pressure of foreign countries, and this impact on the China economy may be disastrous. ● I am very strange now, why there are so many people to hold these two Terms of Terms: One problem is that we have always wanted to understand, "China's joining the WTO Working Group Report" is the same binding force with "China's accession to the WTO Protocol?" Long Yong Pu: Yes, equivalent binding. Reporter: Some people refer to the "Working Group Report" paragraph 242 as "Textile Special Restrictions", do you think this statement is appropriate? Long Yong Map: I don't think it is appropriate. This arrangement is indeed a compromise, but such a compromise is conducive to the order of the international textile market after quota cancellation, which is conducive to the interests of other national textile industries, especially the development of the textile industry, which is conducive to the realization of quotas. Cancel the soft landing of the global textile market. Reporter: The harm of special restrictions should be less than the harm of the quota, we are the right to do it light? Long Yong Map: Continue to extend the quota system for China in politics, so we have become the WTO exception. The arrangements of 242 paragraphs also take into account the interests of other developing countries, taking into account the soft landing of the global textile market, so it is good for everyone. Reporter: So when this so-called special restriction measures are turned on, what kind of influence can I put it not abuse? Especially the 242 paragraph D stipulates that if both parties are not agreeing during the 90-day consultation period, the other party can take some restrictions. Long Yong Map: The 90-day consultation period is actually a buffer period, and China has always believed that the best way to solve trade friction is equal consultation. Reporter: The premise of implementing special restrictions is that there is a market disrupt, but who will define the market to disturb? For example, China's exports to the United States have increased by 20%, which may be defined by the US as a market disrupt, but we may think that it is about 50% to disturb. Long Yong map: This needs to be solved through the 90-day negotiations between the two sides. Reporter: In fact, how much constitutional constraints from Chinese companies also depends on the negotiation of the Chinese government and the other government? Long Yong Pu: Yes, after consultation, the other party can take restrictions, but the three-month consultation period gives us a lot of returning room, both sides can take market coordination, we can also ask our export to implement certain Self-discipline, this is possible. Reporter: Chinese companies should also avoid vicious competition and avoid impact on the export market. Dragon Map: The key to all issues is how to avoid vicious competition, Chinese companies mutual malicious competition is a problem that has not been solved for a long time. We designed such provisions and hope that China's exporters can avoid malicious competition through self-discipline. Export is not the purpose, making money is the purpose, if it is dumping, it will not pay. I think that with the maturity of China's market economy, the phenomenon of vicious competition will be greatly reduced. Reporter: Loss of exports is the main reason for the state-owned foreign trade system, emphasizing export collection, with the reform of the foreign trade system, private enterprises have gained foreign trade management rights, and the resolution of this problem should be not far. The enterprises under the market economy should not be done without the sale of money. Long Yong Map: This is common sense of ABC. This is also why the market economy problem is the main problem for China 's enomited negotiations to solve.
Reporter: China's total trade in China has grown rapidly, but the trade friction between Chinese and foreign countries also shows the potential, in such a context, "China's accession to the WTO Protocol" Article 15 (price comparability when determining subsidies and dumping) ) And article 16 (specific product transitional security mechanism) have been criticized and questioned, these two are really so big? Long Yong map: I don't think there is so much harm like some people, from a sense, this is still a positive terms. This clause is more advanced, and the past automatically treats you as a non-market economy. When Chinese enterprises have been anti-dumping, there will be replacement countries to calculate anti-dumping duties. Article 15 gives two options for Chinese companies: If you can prove that you have market economy conditions in manufacturing, production and sales of this product, there is no government subsidies, no malicious competition, no fake account, then use China's domestic Price or cost; if it is not proven, the price or cost of alternative countries is used. At the beginning, we promised this, general considerations were the vicious competition between Chinese companies for a long time without being resolved. This provision can force our companies to do vicious competition under the pressure of international rules, truly according to the market economy. Law to produce and sell, this is actually forced to engage in our governments and companies in market economy. In fact, in the anti-dumping lawsuit of these years, many Chinese companies have proven their market economy status and win the anti-dumping lawsuit. The core problem is that we have to realize that anti-dumping is legal trade measures in accordance with the rules of WTO. Nothing is strange, China is also anti-dumping foreign products while being anti-dumping, for example, we succeeded in some countries The newspapers and steels exported to China have adopted anti-dumping measures to protect the domestic industry. We oppose some countries abuse anti-dumping clauses, but this is not to say that we must implement double standards on anti-dumping issues. In addition, we have anti-others, do not allow others to reverse us. Reporter: But after all, there are many Chinese companies to use alternative countries prices because of the provisions of Article 15, and prove that the market economy status is expensive, and it has increased the operating cost of the company. Long Yong Pu: This is the tail we have leaving in the negotiation of the negotiations. Reporter: This is the price that has to be paid? Long Yong Pu: It is only a cost to make a better in accordance with market economy in accordance with market economy. Of course, this clause does not allow Chinese companies to automatically enjoy the treatment of other members of the WTO, from this sense that it is discriminatory, but its actual impact is not very big. Reporter: In 2003, China's exports of exports of anti-dumping investigations accounted for 0.51% of the total exports of the year. I heard that you have lost this data in different occasions. Long Yong Pu: This is a fact, and half of the Chinese companies are winning more than 20 billion US dollars. Reporter: But some people analyze from incremental perspectives, think that China's products encountered anti-dumping amounts are rapidly increased. Long Yong Map: I think it will not increase to uncontrollable sites, and the absolute amount will not be too big. Because trade is a mutually beneficial thing, if the other party does not have a market need, you can't play in, and from international trade perspectives, the biggest benefit from Chinese product export is importer. Reporter: Article 16 of the Protocol has also been criticized. Long Yong Pu: These two properties are similar. At that time, we had a big background with this clause: we have a lot of places to compromise outside. We have used these two to exchange many other compromises, such as do not open China's capital market, the renminbi does not accept the convertible under capital. For the outside party, how big is this! If there is no such concession, today RMB exchange rate has to be adjusted under the pressure of abroad, and this impact on China's economy may be catastrophic. So we can only make a weighing in the process of negotiations.
Reporter: It is impossible to pay for a point. Long Yong Pu: Yes, and this price has also a positive side. I am very strange now, why have so many people who have been in these two terms, and the media also asked these two questions. Why don't you ask China after China's accession, how much is, why not Asking questions how much the growth rate of foreign capitals these two years? If you don't see the most basic things, you caught these two, I don't understand the truth in this. Is China's global road to enter the way is right or a follower? ● I have never believed that this statement of foreign trade, the concept of foreign trade, this concept is over time, China's foreign trade dependence is actually ten percent. The impact of China's economy is positive ● Whether the RMB is It also needs further research, I think that our best choice is to maintain the remogend of the renminbi, we can't give any opportunities for speculators that expect RMB appreciation ● Our current economic development level determines what we have to put employment issues Placed in the first place, solve the remaining labor force in the countryside, only by manufacturing, relying on the export, which requires us to vigorously attract foreign investment, development and processing trade ● China is currently in the low profit division of labor in globalization, this international The division of labor is definitely unreasonable, but China will not be in low-profit division of labor. With the growth of China's economy, China will gradually move from low-end to the middle, and the high ends are high-end ● State-owned capital and multinational companies are impossible to "conspiracy" (Some of some large-scale monopolistic semi-monopoly industries), although the state-owned enterprises have been listed, but the management rights and management rights are still in the hands of state-owned capital. In the industry we have related to the people's livelihood, we will definitely adhere to the main rights of state-owned capital, multinational companies can increase In these industries, we will not allow it to master control. ● China should gradually cancel the preferential policies for foreign companies, build a fair competitive environment, this problem must be solved, but solve this problem does not mean that we have to reduce Three-funded enterprises do not even want the three-funded enterprises, we should also vigorously attract foreign investment. If there is too much debate on this issue, it will be missed a good development time. Reporter: Invincibleity has achieved great acceleration of China's globalization: 2001, China's foreign trade dependence (import and export is the proportion of GDP) 43%, 2003 is 63%, I am afraid this year, it will be more than 70%, and the average level of the world's foreign trade dependence is 41%, including 38% of developed countries, 51% of developing countries. On the other hand, the global trade growth in the last three years is almost doubled global GDP growth, but China's trade growth is twice the growth of GDP. Seeing this group of data, are you exciting or worried? In other words, such a high foreign trade dependence is a good thing or a bad thing? Long Yong Chau: I have never believed that foreign trade dependence is said, and the concept of foreign trade dependence is over time. If you want to speak foreign trade dependence, you can't calculate imports in it. You can only talk about export. China's export is more than 50% of processing trade. It is achieved by foreign investment companies, which is the foreign market demand, and the Chinese market. Nothing contact, this is not our domestic demand. So if you remove the export of imports and processing trade, China's foreign trade dependence is actually only ten percent, and the impact on the Chinese economy is positive. Reporter: But this is precisely the problem. Do you think China is forming a new "binary" economy? In the past, we told the binary economy to refer to the sprout of rural and urban.
Now that part of the manufacturing industry supported by funds, technology, raw materials, and the market is not from China's own economy. That is, this part is the prosperity of foreign-wide manufacturing industry, how much is the relationship between China's Chinese economy? Long Yong Pu: Both do not leave. We can get a part of processing costs, but more importantly, it has created employment opportunities to solve employment problems. We all know that the profits we got by the processing trade are relatively low, and the big head is taken by foreign investors, but in China's current situation is always the target choice, processing trade is an important thing for us to solve employment. channel. In addition, through processing trade, we are familiar with foreign technology, management, market. This is a "training" and preparation of our greater, deeper participation in economic globalization. It is a stage that China has become a world economy. Reporter: But some people think it is because we encourage the export-oriented economy, so suppressing the growth of domestic economies, and the latter can originally create more jobs? Long Yong map: How can I suppress domestic demand? Reporter: Exchange rate, tax, land price and labor price are encourage export-oriented foreign companies, and resources are limited, such as many local governments provide land with very low prices, even free to foreign business, but inner businessmen want to get A piece of land is not easy, small and medium-sized business is not easy, we know that SMEs are the main channels of employment in the world. In the case of the three years of China, first, we saw that China attracted foreign investment into the world's first; second, China's import and export growth growth. But there are more and more people to ask questions, this does this mean that China is fixed by multinational companies on the low profit link in the international division of labor chains? Long Yong Pu: I think the situation is constantly changing. Because China is currently in low profit division of labor, foreign companies will come to China to invest in China. Foreign business is not engaged in charity, and he is going to China to make money. Why can he take most of the profits? First, he has a core technology. Second, he has a brand. Why is China still encourage investment in this situation? Because our primary policy choice is to create jobs. In addition, China will not be in a low-profit division of labor. I think that China will gradually move from low-end to the middle, but this requires a process. When Chinese companies occupy the middle or high-end profit links in the international production chain, it is not only foreign companies in China, but also a lot to invest in foreign countries. I think China's participation in economic globalization has always had such a process. Now the global manufacturing is a big transfer to China. China's labor quality is low. China's market is relatively large, and infrastructure is relatively perfect. These are very important reasons, but there is a basic reason, now now Foreigners can make money to China, because he has technology, you don't have technology, he has a brand, you have no brand. If we say that you make money too much, we don't welcome it. We will do it yourself, then we will never learn technology, can't create a brand, will always fall behind others. Reporter: Do you think China's macroeconomic policy has strengthened the advantage of multinational companies? For example, one of the most important macroeconomic policies is the exchange rate. Many people think that the renminbi is underestimated? Long Yong Pu: I think this is the problem of seeing benevolence, whether the RMB is underestimated and needs further research.
My current view, the reason why we still have to keep exchange rate stability under such a powerful international pressure, and the primary reason is that we must ensure that the Chinese economy is stable, we do not allow the RMB exchange rate to have any wind blowing under international pressure, if China is in China Under the pressure, it is more than 5% of the appreciation, and the international market will increase the expected value of 10% -15% immediately, so that our pressure will be larger. So at this time we are not as oppressed, stick to the current exchange rate, let the speculators who expect the renminbi appreciation, let those gambling people will suffer once a time, they don't hit us. Conversely, if global funds are gambling on the RMB exchange rate, our pressure is too big, we can't give any opportunities for gambling, any hope, I think we are now the best choice is to maintain the RMB exchange rate change. Reporter: Is there a concern that China's economic growth is too heavy for China's economic growth due to exchange rate adjustments? Long Yong Map: I think the exchange rate factor is not the main factor in China. It is not the only factor. Don't excel highly estimated exchange rates to China's exports. China's export is mainly because China's manufacturing is powerful. Reporter: Why do you have the most service industry in other countries, but China is manufacturing? China's service industry accounts for more than 30% of the proportion of GDP, which is related to China's exchange rate policy, export-oriented development orientation? Long Yong Map: I think this is basically not too much relationship with exchange rate, mainly related to China's current economic structure, population structure and urbanization. China is now more than 60% of the rural population. What is the urgent need to speed up the rural labor force, for example, if the remaining labor of 100 million rural rural people will become urban residents in the next 10 years to 20 years, become urban employment If we have created a $ 150 million consumer group, which is more than 500 million people need rent, need transportation, education, need a variety of service industries, which will greatly promote the service industry. Demand, because the development of the service industry is also driven. Therefore, the problem of solving the service industry must first solve the urbanization problem of rural areas. If the urban population of China accounts for 70%, the rural population accounts for only 30%, and the service industry can develop rapidly. Reporter: The proportion of rural population in India is also large, but India's service industry is almost half of GDP. Long Yong Map: I don't know how this is calculated, I think the calculation method may have problems. Reporter: You think that China has solved the remaining labor force in China, can only rely mainly on the manufacturing industry? Long Yong map: Started by manufacturing, relying on export, otherwise the rural population does not transfer. Let's develop the service industry, who is you? Of course, there is a problem with the concept of employment. There are many positions that need people, but no one is doing, because the traditional employment can not accept some positions, this is a very important issue. Once in the United States, a very big boss invited me to eat, eat this billionaire in the meal, do you know that my son is doing a waiter in this restaurant, and then he will find his son to introduce me to tell me, this is China. The minister, introduced me to me, saying that he is doing well here. This matter makes me impressive, because this is an unimaginable in China. Reporter: Foreign investment is an important factor in promoting the development of China. This is a fact, but what role should be played in China's economy, and there have been arguments for more than 20 years.
The first wave of arguments is the core of the 1980s. The core of the debate is ideological issue. For example, China has to have a rental industry, is it returned by capitalism; the second wave argument is the mid-1990, background is after 1992 In the three four years, China's attraction exceeded the sum of more than ten years. At the same time, some famous domestic brands such as the United States added, vitality 28 and other joint ventures, the iconic events at the time were Lekai refused to join the Kodak joint venture. "Economic Daily" has therefore also made a big discussion of foreign investment and national industries. This wave argument, the protagonist has become a state-owned enterprise, and the core problem is to protect the national industry; we observed that from last year, the debate about foreign capital has begun to the third wave, the protagonist of this wave of arguments becomes private enterprises, For example, Zhang Wenzhong, the Oriental Group, the focus of the debate is whether China is over-opening, China will "Latinize", whether private enterprises have got "national treatment". Long Yong Map: I think this problem will be seen from two aspects. On the one hand, China is now there is too much preferential policy for foreign companies. I think China should consider gradually canceling preferential policies for foreign companies to create a fair competitive environment. We do have many discriminatory treatment for private enterprises, including bank loans, land use problems, and market access issues in the so-called sensitive industry. Even if there is no discrimination in policies, discrimination in the implementation, private companies have not enjoyed real national treatment, so it has caused the dislike of foreign companies, I think this problem must be solved. But on the other hand, I think that solving this problem doesn't mean that we have to reduce the three-capital enterprises or even the three-funded enterprises. We should still attract foreign investment. How many years have always emphasized this view, private companies, state-owned enterprises, foreign-funded enterprises, as long as they are registered on Chinese land, pay taxes, hire Chinese workers, it is Chinese companies. I think there is no need to distinguish between enterprises, and the mature market economy has never asked your investment source. Investing in your land is your business, just this. If you have too much debate on this issue, you will miss an excellent development opportunity. Nowadays, a global manufacturing industry has moved to China. I think this shift is a great development opportunity for China. China can make full use of foreign funds, talents and technologies to develop themselves. If we moved to China at the global industry, we have the idea of blocking this shift, then we will lose a historic opportunity. Reporter: One point of view believes that with the strategic reorganization of state-owned economies, state-owned capital is increasingly focused on some monopoly and semi-monopoly areas, financial, electric power, oil, telecommunications, cars, etc., and these large monopoly state companies pass Shareholding, listing, and other channels and multinational companies form a strategic partner to share the Chinese market. Does this mean that the situation of private companies is getting more and more bad? Because the industries who have been engaged in privatous enterprises have been saturated under full competition, the monopoly of high profit industries is getting more and more solid, and it is increasingly difficult to enter. Long Yong Chau: I don't think it can be seen. China is a large-scale state-owned enterprise listed overseas, and some capital is absorbed in the international capital market, but this does not mean that they have formed a close cooperation with multinational companies, and they can't talk about this cooperation to monopolize the domestic market. Although the state-owned enterprises have been listed, the management rights and management rights are still in the hands of state-owned capital. In the industry that involves national planners, we will adhere to the main rights of state-owned capital, multinational companies can increase investment in these industries, but we will not Allow it to master control.
Reporter: The most powerful foreign investment in the mid-1990s is the state-owned enterprise represented by Lekai. Long Yong Pu: Private enterprises should strive to be equal in the market economy, but they can't connect directly to the entry of equal status and foreign capital. Reporter: Is this phenomenon that state-owned monopoly capital has a trend of "conspiracy" with multinational companies? Long Yong map: I think it is absolutely not this, this is impossible. How should WTO reform? ● Now that we have many business technological requirements (TBT), we have complained that they are discriminated against, asking the government to negotiate, this is not an attitude to solve the problem, so don't join the WTO ● WTO in the system There are still many problems, but it is irreplaceable. Our position, the first is to actively support the WTO, the second is that the WTO must reform. Through reforms to strengthen the WTO reporter: After the entry, we have heard the Chinese companies to complain about international trade barriers, but you are On September 5, a speech proposed to translate Technical Barriers to Trade (TBT) into a "technical trade barrier" wrong, the correct translation should be "technical requirements for trade". We think this is not only a translation problem, but also a new trade view. Is your confident in this? Long Yong Map: The barrier implies derogatory, refers to the obstacles that deliberately created, but the fact is not the case. I have recently read a data, and countries have proposed more than 8,000 technical requirements, standards, and norms in international trade. In the early days, there is more than 8,000 TBTs, but the WTO reviews have found only 50 constitutional discriminatory, and there are 12 kinds of cancellations. In this way, more than 8,000 TBTs only have one percent, which is truly the trade barriers we are talking, and others are technical requirements. So I personally think that the Ministry of Commerce should re-translate TBT, so that it is closer to the original meaning, otherwise it will cause a lot of misunderstandings. "Technical Requirements" and "Technical Trade Barriers" are two completely different concepts, and different concepts reflect different mentality. We should use positive ideas, rather than negative confrontation attitudes to treat trading partners' technical requirements. Now that China's products can be hit abroad, the core problem is to meet the quality, environmental protection and health requirements of international standards. When Chinese companies are in the face of TBT, what should I first think of how to improve their technical content to meet international standards, only so that we can get an international market pass. Now we have a lot of companies to complain that they are discriminated against, asking the government to negotiate, this is not an attitude of solving the problem, so don't join the WTO. Of course, not all TBT is reasonable. I think it is three standards for the trade barrier: the first, standard development or requirements, whether it is scientific and reasonable; second, whether it is international, whether this standard or requirement is For international confident; third, whether it is in line with the principle of non-discrimination, that is, you can't be a standard for Chinese products, a standard for US products, and a standard for EU products. If a TBT is rationality, international, non-discriminatory, then this TBT cannot be called technical barriers, but a technical requirement that must be adapted. Reporter: We feel that you are still very convinced of the current world trade order, very confident. Long Yong Map: Of course, Chinese Qianxin is not adding to the WTO. The WTO does have a lot of problems in the system, but it is irreplaceable. As the United Nations has a lot of problems, but there is no organization throughout the international political system to replace the United Nations.